@Erica OMG the worst. I got an email from a coworker today who said the CEO asked me to compose a history of this account, so can you just write that down for me? Mind you I'm senior to this person. So I was like sorry, too busy, but the CRM has everything in it! >:/
@garli And if you don't mind just copy the info sheet and hand out to everyone real quick. Thanks!
@garli The thing that gets me is they don't think they're sexist. It's just like they're used to some other way when women didn't have similar jobs to them so they don't realize times have changed.
@@fo yeah, that's an interesting point. next time i start a new job i have to pretend to be clueless.
@garli Funny, I'm actually finding some of the older guys (30-45) to be much better compared to the very young guys (21). Then again, the much older guys (50+) are some of the worst and treat all the women like secretaries. We don't have anyone who is in between 21 & 30 though, so that might explain a lot of it. The young guys are super immature, and that probably is a lot of it. The older guys are apparently still living in the 80s. The guys closer to my age (I'm 30) seem to understand although they are by no means perfect. We actually had a young woman (early 20s) quit because she wasn't getting support and respect from the other team members her age. Generally speaking, women drop out of technical roles at higher rates than men. I think for a lot of women, they just get sick of dealing with the sexism. I know I would love to switch industries because I'm pretty over it despite liking my actual job/tasks. I just don't know where I could start over and make as much money.
@garli Totally. It's like well, I have a roof over my head etc. Honestly I don't try to rock the boat that much. I've attempted to bring it up to superiors and nothing happens and they just think I'm being crazy or too sensitive. So I keep most of my feminist activity outside the workplace. I say something sometimes to colleagues, but usually it gets me more of a headache than change.
@garli OMG, yes THIS TIMES ONE THOUSAND. That happens to me so much. The other very annoying similar thing is none of the men can remember how to use the scanner/coffee maker etc. "How do I make a copy again? Can you help?" Really? Come on!
@Erica Right, but I'm talking about myself. I'm saying it's hard not to feel bad, not criticizing other people!
So depressing. I really empathize with feeling like the work you do to make money interferes with feminism and other social justice work. I work in a very sexist industry as well and wonder sometimes if I am part of the problem for not quitting. But I need the money, so....
that is crazy!