Mike: Earlier this week, we had a feature story about how a person got her job at a public relations firm. Part of that answer, we discover, is through connections this person had. “You should take every meeting,” she said. “Because you never know who’s going to have a job open up over the weekend. That’s a lot of how I got my job.” I appreciate how upfront she was about this because it basically demonstrated how “bootstrapping” is often a myth—the idea we got from Horatio Alger who wrote stories about boys working hard and moving themselves out of poverty and up the ladder. This is a part of the heart of the American Dream, but, of course, Horatio Alger wrote fiction. It’s not as simple as that. Were you raised with a “bootstrapping” mentality?
Mike: Logan, so we’ve got some programming news to announce, yes?
What is ur fantasy?
Logan: Happy Friday, Mike. So three things happened in the world this week: The government shut down, Miley and Sinead got in a fight, and a woman quit her job with a YouTube video. I think that’s it right? That’s the gist of it. Anyway there are some lessons to be learned from all of these things (it’s terrifying that 80 white dudes can shut down the government; don’t read another word about Miley Cyrus ever), but I thought the one we could talk about is: Quitting your job via YouTube video. Have you watched it?
Mike: This week, I listened to an interview that Jesse Thorn did with American writer Fran Leibowitz, who has been described as a “modern Dorothy Parker.” And she talked a lot about some of the difficulties she faced just doing her job, and some of her thoughts about money. So I thought it might be something interesting to talk about!
Logan: I feel like we talk about weddings all of the time always, but ha, I would like to talk about them some more.
What is home. Where is home.
Logan: Mike, have you been in a shopping establishment lately? While I was home I went to a Target and wanted to buy every notebook and pencil in the place. I had like, an ache. For school supplies.
Mike: So, Logan, every Friday we sort of scratch our heads and think, “What are we going to talk about for our Friday chat this week? We have chatted all the chats! There are no more chats!” Today we are going to do a grab bag. We each get three questions of whatever nature we want and will take turns asking them. Okay, I’ll start.
I don’t know, that’s basically like the opposite of my experience with talking about my career with my own parents. I’m sure your parents were also supportive of whatever you wanted to do?
What do you want to be when you grow up?