On How and Why Josh Eidelson Went From Being a Labor Activist to a Labor Journalist (Also: Labor 101)
@deepomega The sad part is that pensions used to be a common feature of all jobs. Now public employees are the only people who still have them, and they're constantly being chastised and hated for it. Pensions are a good thing. Everyone should try to get one, not tear down the few who still have them until we're all "equal" in having absolutely nothing. Blergh.
@stuffisthings If it's comparing part-time workers to full-time workers, that...doesn't even make any sense to me at all. How can you compare those things? Are they saying the part timers work only 2.1 hours less than the full-timers? Because in that case that actually is shocking.
@City_Dater I'm actually not as clueless as you might think, I am well aware of the current shite state of the labor market, thanks.
@Safari I agree with all this. I wish the article had had a wider focus, because it's true that almost all entry-level jobs have the same overwork/underpay problems, but the only ones the media ever talks about are the glamour industry jobs. I agree that the whole concept of unpaid internships is a huge problem, and I would be happy if ALL internships were paid, they should be paid, unless the internship literally consists of just shadowing someone and taking notes. If you're contributing any work at all to the organization, you should be paid! I think these issues came out much better in the comments to the NYT article than in the actual article, sadly. I just think that articles like this one make it too easy to dismiss this problem as a problem that upper middle class kids choose to have because they want fancy jobs, when it's actually a problem that all people who work have.
@stuffisthings Were the people in the article students? I thought it said they were comparing full-time workers to other full-time workers.
I don't know, man. Yes, these people are clearly being exploited. On the other hand, they're volunteering for the exploitation because they really really want to break into "glamour industries." There's plenty of "boring desk jobs" that don't require these insane hours for no pay (might still be low pay, but not as low/nonexistent as the pay detailed here), but I'm guessing the subjects here would be the types to swan around declaring that they'll NEVER be chained to a DESK like their PARENTS and they NEED to do something CREATIVE with VARIETY and EXCITEMENT. Which is fine, but...if that's the deal you signed up for, that's kind of the deal.
I'm confused as to why 20-24 year olds are expected to work fewer hours than "25 and up" year-olds? The article sounded disapproving that they "only" work 2.1 hours LESS than everyone else. Um, yeah, everyone with the same job works the same hours.
@Amanda@twitter The CVS Brand one is actually pretty good!
The best thing is when you continue to look 12 well into your 30's and desk people at museums just take one look at you and automatically give you the student discount or worse the "under 25 discount" that they seem to have in Canada *without you even having to ask or showing any type of ID* and then you stand there for a moment wondering if you should say "no, actually I'm a grown up" or just take the cheaper admission. (this might be a good candidate for "what would you do," because I always take the cheaper admission but then feel guilty about it.)
@Michelle LeBlanc@twitter Although huge compared to studio apartments in most cities.