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		<title>I Escaped the Permatern Life By Leaving the West</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James Griffiths</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Internships]]></category>
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<p><img src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Screen-Shot-2013-04-10-at-1.53.10-PM-640x318.jpg" alt="" title="Hangzhou Shanghaï" width="640" height="318" class="alignnone size-post640 wp-image-27318" /><br />
Last summer, I wrote about how <a href="http://thebillfold.com/2012/06/being-an-intern-sucks-in-the-u-k-too/">being an intern in the U.K. sucks too</a>. Nevertheless, from June and September 2012 I applied for over 60 internships and other entry-level journalism positions in the U.K. Nearly all of these positions were either unpaid or (extremely) low-paid. If I hadn’t made one important decision that September, I’d probably <em>still </em>be <a href="http://thebillfold.com/2013/04/permaterns/">begging for internships</a>, and I’d either be living with my parents or on the <a href="http://thebillfold.com/2012/07/why-young-people-need-housing-benefits-in-the-u-k/">meager benefits the U.K. government begrudgingly gives my age cohort</a>.</p>
<p>So what changed? I stopped looking for jobs in the U.K. and started looking for jobs in the <em>whole world</em>.</p>
<p>Companies in recession-blighted Western Europe and America are overwhelmed with job applications every day. I’ve spoken to numerous friends and acquaintances who work in HR and readily admit that lots of applications are discarded almost on site—the slightest error or odd turn of phrase being enough to earn a place in the trash. Even those applicants who do get their resumes in front of the people that matter are competing against dozens if not hundreds of similarly qualified job hunters. <!--more--></p>
<p>Meanwhile, countries in the developing world and rising superpowers such as China and Brazil are <a href="http://thebillfold.com/2013/03/i-got-an-m-f-a-and-now-i-teach-english-in-the-middle-east/">screaming out for young talent</a>. The ability to speak English may not get you in fields such as marketing and PR as it once would, but when it comes to journalism and reporting, publications are nearly always on the lookout for capable native speakers who know how to grammar good. And, though you might not realise it (I didn’t), there are <em>a lot</em> of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:English-language_newspapers">English</a> <a href="http://www.inkdrop.net/dave/news.html">language</a> <a href="http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/">publications</a> in non-English speaking countries.</p>
<p>I currently work as an editor at <a href="http://www.shanghaiist.com/">Shanghaiist</a>, which is part of the <a href="http://www.gothamistllc.com/">Gothamist network</a> and one of the largest English language blogs about China. I got this job in part because I was willing to relocate to Shanghai for it, and nothing impresses employers more than the fact that you’d move across the world to get the job. I don’t make a lot of money, but I live a comfortable life, get to write for a living, and am several rungs higher up my career ladder than I would be if I were still bouncing from internship to internship in the U.K.</p>
<p>Beyond the fact that employers are actually hiring, there are numerous other reasons to live abroad. The cost of living is very low, I live in one of the most expensive cities in China and yet I bought a month&#8217;s worth of groceries the other day for around £15 ($25). If you’re lucky enough to work in a field that lends itself to freelancing, you can supplement your wages by selling work back in your home country. If I sell one 1,500-word piece to a British or American publication, I make roughly a third of my Chinese monthly wage.</p>
<p>There’s also the wow factor of having lived overseas, which is invaluable for when you do start looking for jobs back in your home country. There’s a massive difference between blithely saying you’re a &#8220;self starter&#8221; and detailing how you moved to Sao Paolo to work for a magazine or taught English in Beijing while working as a freelance journalist.</p>
<p>Not all internships are created equally, and I’m by no means advocating for people to turn down the opportunity to work at the <em>Financial Times</em> or Gawker (or the equivalent in your industry) just to go gallivanting in South America or the Middle East. But if you reach the point where you’re applying to work for little or no money for bottom of the barrel employers just to pad out your resume with the necessary &#8220;experience&#8221;, then stop looking at local employers, and go East.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jamestgriffiths.com/"><em>James Griffiths</em></a><em> is a senior editor at </em><a href="http://www.shanghaiist.com/"><em>Shanghaiist</em></a><em>. He has written for publications in the U.K., U.S., and China. Follow him on Twitter: </em><a href="http://www.twitter.com/jgriffiths"><em>@jgriffiths</em></a><em>. Photo: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/phileole/6339727375/">phileole</a></em></p>

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<p><img src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Screen-Shot-2013-04-10-at-1.53.10-PM-640x318.jpg" alt="" title="Hangzhou Shanghaï" width="640" height="318" class="alignnone size-post640 wp-image-27318" /><br />
Last summer, I wrote about how <a href="http://thebillfold.com/2012/06/being-an-intern-sucks-in-the-u-k-too/">being an intern in the U.K. sucks too</a>. Nevertheless, from June and September 2012 I applied for over 60 internships and other entry-level journalism positions in the U.K. Nearly all of these positions were either unpaid or (extremely) low-paid. If I hadn’t made one important decision that September, I’d probably <em>still </em>be <a href="http://thebillfold.com/2013/04/permaterns/">begging for internships</a>, and I’d either be living with my parents or on the <a href="http://thebillfold.com/2012/07/why-young-people-need-housing-benefits-in-the-u-k/">meager benefits the U.K. government begrudgingly gives my age cohort</a>.</p>
<p>So what changed? I stopped looking for jobs in the U.K. and started looking for jobs in the <em>whole world</em>.</p>
<p>Companies in recession-blighted Western Europe and America are overwhelmed with job applications every day. I’ve spoken to numerous friends and acquaintances who work in HR and readily admit that lots of applications are discarded almost on site—the slightest error or odd turn of phrase being enough to earn a place in the trash. Even those applicants who do get their resumes in front of the people that matter are competing against dozens if not hundreds of similarly qualified job hunters. <span id="more-27315"></span></p>
<p>Meanwhile, countries in the developing world and rising superpowers such as China and Brazil are <a href="http://thebillfold.com/2013/03/i-got-an-m-f-a-and-now-i-teach-english-in-the-middle-east/">screaming out for young talent</a>. The ability to speak English may not get you in fields such as marketing and PR as it once would, but when it comes to journalism and reporting, publications are nearly always on the lookout for capable native speakers who know how to grammar good. And, though you might not realise it (I didn’t), there are <em>a lot</em> of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:English-language_newspapers">English</a> <a href="http://www.inkdrop.net/dave/news.html">language</a> <a href="http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/">publications</a> in non-English speaking countries.</p>
<p>I currently work as an editor at <a href="http://www.shanghaiist.com/">Shanghaiist</a>, which is part of the <a href="http://www.gothamistllc.com/">Gothamist network</a> and one of the largest English language blogs about China. I got this job in part because I was willing to relocate to Shanghai for it, and nothing impresses employers more than the fact that you’d move across the world to get the job. I don’t make a lot of money, but I live a comfortable life, get to write for a living, and am several rungs higher up my career ladder than I would be if I were still bouncing from internship to internship in the U.K.</p>
<p>Beyond the fact that employers are actually hiring, there are numerous other reasons to live abroad. The cost of living is very low, I live in one of the most expensive cities in China and yet I bought a month&#8217;s worth of groceries the other day for around £15 ($25). If you’re lucky enough to work in a field that lends itself to freelancing, you can supplement your wages by selling work back in your home country. If I sell one 1,500-word piece to a British or American publication, I make roughly a third of my Chinese monthly wage.</p>
<p>There’s also the wow factor of having lived overseas, which is invaluable for when you do start looking for jobs back in your home country. There’s a massive difference between blithely saying you’re a &#8220;self starter&#8221; and detailing how you moved to Sao Paolo to work for a magazine or taught English in Beijing while working as a freelance journalist.</p>
<p>Not all internships are created equally, and I’m by no means advocating for people to turn down the opportunity to work at the <em>Financial Times</em> or Gawker (or the equivalent in your industry) just to go gallivanting in South America or the Middle East. But if you reach the point where you’re applying to work for little or no money for bottom of the barrel employers just to pad out your resume with the necessary &#8220;experience&#8221;, then stop looking at local employers, and go East.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jamestgriffiths.com/"><em>James Griffiths</em></a><em> is a senior editor at </em><a href="http://www.shanghaiist.com/"><em>Shanghaiist</em></a><em>. He has written for publications in the U.K., U.S., and China. Follow him on Twitter: </em><a href="http://www.twitter.com/jgriffiths"><em>@jgriffiths</em></a><em>. Photo: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/phileole/6339727375/">phileole</a></em></p>

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		<title>The Sixth Round of Interviews</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2013/03/the-sixth-round-of-interviews/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 17:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike Dang</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Jobs]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Catherine Rampell]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[interviews]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[job hunting]]></category>
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<p><img src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Screen-Shot-2013-03-07-at-12.13.43-PM-640x238.jpg" alt="" title="Retainer!" width="640" height="238" class="alignnone size-post640 wp-image-24988" /></p>
<blockquote><p>Like other job seekers around the country, he has been through marathon interview sessions. Mr. Sullivan has received eighth- and ninth-round callbacks for positions at three different companies. Two of those companies, as it turned out, ultimately decided not to hire anyone, he said; instead they put their openings “on hold” because of budget pressures.</p>
<p>At one company, while signing into the visitor’s log for the sixth time, he was chided by the security guard.</p>
<p>&#8220;He thought I worked there and just kept forgetting my security badge,&#8221; Mr. Sullivan said. &#8220;He couldn’t believe I was actually there for another interview. I couldn’t either! But then I put on a happy face, went upstairs and waited for another round of questions.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>There was exactly one time when I was a candidate for a position that asked me to come in for more than two interviews, and when I was asked to come in for a fourth time, I had already received an offer at another company, so I declined to continue with the long process. So what I&#8217;m saying is, <em>I feel you</em>, people who were interviewed for <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/07/business/economy/despite-job-vacancies-employers-shy-away-from-hiring.html?pagewanted=all">this story by Catherine Rampell</a>.</p>

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<blockquote><p>Like other job seekers around the country, he has been through marathon interview sessions. Mr. Sullivan has received eighth- and ninth-round callbacks for positions at three different companies. Two of those companies, as it turned out, ultimately decided not to hire anyone, he said; instead they put their openings “on hold” because of budget pressures.</p>
<p>At one company, while signing into the visitor’s log for the sixth time, he was chided by the security guard.</p>
<p>&#8220;He thought I worked there and just kept forgetting my security badge,&#8221; Mr. Sullivan said. &#8220;He couldn’t believe I was actually there for another interview. I couldn’t either! But then I put on a happy face, went upstairs and waited for another round of questions.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>There was exactly one time when I was a candidate for a position that asked me to come in for more than two interviews, and when I was asked to come in for a fourth time, I had already received an offer at another company, so I declined to continue with the long process. So what I&#8217;m saying is, <em>I feel you</em>, people who were interviewed for <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/07/business/economy/despite-job-vacancies-employers-shy-away-from-hiring.html?pagewanted=all">this story by Catherine Rampell</a>.</p>

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		<title>Unemployed, Discouraged, But Not Hopeless</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2013/01/unemployed-discouraged-but-not-hopeless/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Maggie Hamilton</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Unemployment]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[career changes]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[job hunting]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Maggie Hamilton]]></category>
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<p><img src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Screen-Shot-2013-01-30-at-3.49.06-PM-640x240.jpg" alt="" title="On to better things" width="640" height="240" class="alignnone size-post640 wp-image-22636" /><br />
Laid off. Let go. Terminated. Fired.</p>
<p>However you want to spin it, I am jobless. I&#8217;ve only been without a job once, and it was completely voluntary when I first moved to New York. I am 31, and I have worked since I was 16 (14 if you count my lucrative babysitting career). I didn&#8217;t like my job selling luxury goods because it made me miserable, but it was better than not having a job at all.</p>
<p>I had been <a href="http://thebillfold.com/2012/10/im-stuck-in-a-career-rut/">feeling stuck in my career</a> and knew I wanted to move on to something more fulfilling for a while. For the last several months, work was unbearable, due to do both my unhappiness and the way I was being managed. Our weekly team meetings felt more like a rundown of who screwed what up. Rarely a day passed when one colleague didn&#8217;t make another cry, intentionally or not. And a management shakeup early last year added a new layer of unneeded stress, as well as unreasonable expectations. My coworkers were good people, but the environment was completely dysfunctional for a variety of reasons I won&#8217;t go into right now. I didn&#8217;t have the best sun-shiny attitude, but I delivered.</p>
<p>I quietly confided in a colleague that I was looking for a new job, and the cat was soon let out of the bag, because during my review, I was told that the company didn&#8217;t want anyone on the team who didn&#8217;t want to be there. Duly noted. A month after my review, I was taken into our bathroom and was told that I was going to be let go. <!--more--></p>
<p>The wind was knocked out of me. I was told that I couldn&#8217;t tell anyone, and that I had to go about my business for a couple of days. My tears and clean desk were a dead giveaway, and people figured it out anyway. They were surprised, but not totally in shock given the dysfunctional atmosphere. It was a perplexing to come to work and not be able to talk to anyone about what was happening with me. I finished my work and tied up loose ends, grateful that I didn&#8217;t have to leave my colleagues with any unanswered questions. The whole thing seemed mishandled, as if they felt like getting rid of me would lift a dark cloud off the company.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a strange, emotional time. I&#8217;m relieved that my time there is over, and that I can concentrate on moving on to something I (hopefully) love. I&#8217;ve emailed and spoken with a few recruiters, one of whom said I sounded like I was &#8220;floundering&#8221; because I couldn&#8217;t answer the &#8220;where do you see yourself in five years&#8221; question, which is just what an unemployed gal wants to hear. It made me feel like I&#8217;m destined to be jobless forever, although I know that&#8217;s not the case—that not everyone has their life figured out. I know what I&#8217;m good at: I have years of experience in communications, customer service, social media, graphic design and was consistently the top sales person at my company. But stories about high unemployment rates and people being out of work for months, if not years, freaks me out.</p>
<p>I took the first couple days to decompress, and now on the hunt again. I&#8217;ve made a point to not sleep in until noon, and am making sure I still exercise. My network in New York is small, but I&#8217;m contacting whoever I think might be able to help me. One fear I have is that I&#8217;ll be compelled to take the first job that&#8217;s offered to me, and I&#8217;ll end up hating my job again. I don&#8217;t think my next job is going to be perfect and life-changing (unless I end up opening that cat cafe), but I want it to be somewhere with an outstanding company culture and where I&#8217;m doing something I actually believe in.</p>
<p>In the meantime, I&#8217;m fine with babysitting and temp jobs and spending part of my time volunteering at an animal shelter. I&#8217;m also looking into volunteering in the social services field. I&#8217;ve thought about going into social work, but a master&#8217;s is required for that, and I&#8217;m not going to make that financial commitment without getting my feet wet first.</p>
<p>I filed for unemployment, but I won&#8217;t have any sense of relief until I get that first check. I&#8217;m paranoid that it&#8217;ll be disputed, even though I verified that I would be able to collect. I&#8217;m lucky that I have a tiny bit of savings, but I&#8217;d rather not see it drained. My supportive boyfriend and I were planning on moving in together this year, and it&#8217;s nice to know I have the option of subletting my room and moving in temporarily with him. All is not lost.</p>
<p>So, positive and helpful Billfold readers—any advice on how to handle this with grace? Do I try to get a job at Magnolia and live off of banana pudding? Panhandle on the subway? Anyone hiring? Any New York City temp agencies anyone can recommend, or have any other suggestions? I&#8217;m happy to send you my resume at any time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><em>Maggie Hamilton lives in New York City and is an avid pie-baker, cat-stalker, and park-runner. Write her at </em><a href="mailto:maggie.hamilton.nyc@gmail.com"><em>maggie.hamilton.nyc@gmail.com</em></a><em> or stalk her on her new blog: </em><a href="http://maggiejobsearches.tumblr.com/"><em>maggiejobsearches.tumblr.com</em></a></p>

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<p><img src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Screen-Shot-2013-01-30-at-3.49.06-PM-640x240.jpg" alt="" title="On to better things" width="640" height="240" class="alignnone size-post640 wp-image-22636" /><br />
Laid off. Let go. Terminated. Fired.</p>
<p>However you want to spin it, I am jobless. I&#8217;ve only been without a job once, and it was completely voluntary when I first moved to New York. I am 31, and I have worked since I was 16 (14 if you count my lucrative babysitting career). I didn&#8217;t like my job selling luxury goods because it made me miserable, but it was better than not having a job at all.</p>
<p>I had been <a href="http://thebillfold.com/2012/10/im-stuck-in-a-career-rut/">feeling stuck in my career</a> and knew I wanted to move on to something more fulfilling for a while. For the last several months, work was unbearable, due to do both my unhappiness and the way I was being managed. Our weekly team meetings felt more like a rundown of who screwed what up. Rarely a day passed when one colleague didn&#8217;t make another cry, intentionally or not. And a management shakeup early last year added a new layer of unneeded stress, as well as unreasonable expectations. My coworkers were good people, but the environment was completely dysfunctional for a variety of reasons I won&#8217;t go into right now. I didn&#8217;t have the best sun-shiny attitude, but I delivered.</p>
<p>I quietly confided in a colleague that I was looking for a new job, and the cat was soon let out of the bag, because during my review, I was told that the company didn&#8217;t want anyone on the team who didn&#8217;t want to be there. Duly noted. A month after my review, I was taken into our bathroom and was told that I was going to be let go. <span id="more-22635"></span></p>
<p>The wind was knocked out of me. I was told that I couldn&#8217;t tell anyone, and that I had to go about my business for a couple of days. My tears and clean desk were a dead giveaway, and people figured it out anyway. They were surprised, but not totally in shock given the dysfunctional atmosphere. It was a perplexing to come to work and not be able to talk to anyone about what was happening with me. I finished my work and tied up loose ends, grateful that I didn&#8217;t have to leave my colleagues with any unanswered questions. The whole thing seemed mishandled, as if they felt like getting rid of me would lift a dark cloud off the company.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a strange, emotional time. I&#8217;m relieved that my time there is over, and that I can concentrate on moving on to something I (hopefully) love. I&#8217;ve emailed and spoken with a few recruiters, one of whom said I sounded like I was &#8220;floundering&#8221; because I couldn&#8217;t answer the &#8220;where do you see yourself in five years&#8221; question, which is just what an unemployed gal wants to hear. It made me feel like I&#8217;m destined to be jobless forever, although I know that&#8217;s not the case—that not everyone has their life figured out. I know what I&#8217;m good at: I have years of experience in communications, customer service, social media, graphic design and was consistently the top sales person at my company. But stories about high unemployment rates and people being out of work for months, if not years, freaks me out.</p>
<p>I took the first couple days to decompress, and now on the hunt again. I&#8217;ve made a point to not sleep in until noon, and am making sure I still exercise. My network in New York is small, but I&#8217;m contacting whoever I think might be able to help me. One fear I have is that I&#8217;ll be compelled to take the first job that&#8217;s offered to me, and I&#8217;ll end up hating my job again. I don&#8217;t think my next job is going to be perfect and life-changing (unless I end up opening that cat cafe), but I want it to be somewhere with an outstanding company culture and where I&#8217;m doing something I actually believe in.</p>
<p>In the meantime, I&#8217;m fine with babysitting and temp jobs and spending part of my time volunteering at an animal shelter. I&#8217;m also looking into volunteering in the social services field. I&#8217;ve thought about going into social work, but a master&#8217;s is required for that, and I&#8217;m not going to make that financial commitment without getting my feet wet first.</p>
<p>I filed for unemployment, but I won&#8217;t have any sense of relief until I get that first check. I&#8217;m paranoid that it&#8217;ll be disputed, even though I verified that I would be able to collect. I&#8217;m lucky that I have a tiny bit of savings, but I&#8217;d rather not see it drained. My supportive boyfriend and I were planning on moving in together this year, and it&#8217;s nice to know I have the option of subletting my room and moving in temporarily with him. All is not lost.</p>
<p>So, positive and helpful Billfold readers—any advice on how to handle this with grace? Do I try to get a job at Magnolia and live off of banana pudding? Panhandle on the subway? Anyone hiring? Any New York City temp agencies anyone can recommend, or have any other suggestions? I&#8217;m happy to send you my resume at any time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><em>Maggie Hamilton lives in New York City and is an avid pie-baker, cat-stalker, and park-runner. Write her at </em><a href="mailto:maggie.hamilton.nyc@gmail.com"><em>maggie.hamilton.nyc@gmail.com</em></a><em> or stalk her on her new blog: </em><a href="http://maggiejobsearches.tumblr.com/"><em>maggiejobsearches.tumblr.com</em></a></p>

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		<title>Applying for Jobs, Getting &#8216;First Date&#8217; Questions</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2013/01/applying-for-jobs-getting-first-date-questions/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike Dang</dc:creator>
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<p><img class="alignleft  wp-image-21076" title="Your favorite movie is Horrible Bosses?" src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Screen-Shot-2013-01-07-at-1.47.53-PM-300x175.jpg" alt="" width="270" height="158" /><br />
<blockquote>Job interviews are becoming more like first dates. The employment site Glassdoor has collected 285,000 questions asked by hiring managers, and the following four rank among 2012’s 50 most common, though they have little to do with work: What’s your favorite movie? What’s your favorite website? What’s the last book you read for fun? What makes you uncomfortable? Over the last couple of years, spokesman Scott Dobroski says, the site has found “a significant rise in questions asked about cultural fit.”</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Bloomberg Businessweek</em> has <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-03/job-applicants-cultural-fit-can-trump-qualifications#r=hpt-lst">a recent piece</a> looking at interview questions companies ask applicants in order to figure out whether or not someone will be &#8220;cultural fit&#8221; in their organization. From my own experience, cultural fit is something especially valued at startup companies, and can often be more important than actual experience:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I once hired a woman who really didn’t have the right background or experience for the job, but who I hit it off with during the interview,&#8221; says Rebecca Grossman-Cohen, a marketing executive at News Corp. &#8220;And because we got along so well, I was able to train her easily, and she ended up doing great things for us.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Thankfully, I&#8217;ve never been asked any of these &#8220;first date&#8221; sort of questions on any job interviews I&#8217;ve ever been on (in my case, employers just want to know if you can write and report, and see examples). What makes me uncomfortable? Employers asking me first date questions during a job interview.</p>

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<p><img class="alignleft  wp-image-21076" title="Your favorite movie is Horrible Bosses?" src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Screen-Shot-2013-01-07-at-1.47.53-PM-300x175.jpg" alt="" width="270" height="158" /><br />
<blockquote>Job interviews are becoming more like first dates. The employment site Glassdoor has collected 285,000 questions asked by hiring managers, and the following four rank among 2012’s 50 most common, though they have little to do with work: What’s your favorite movie? What’s your favorite website? What’s the last book you read for fun? What makes you uncomfortable? Over the last couple of years, spokesman Scott Dobroski says, the site has found “a significant rise in questions asked about cultural fit.”</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Bloomberg Businessweek</em> has <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-03/job-applicants-cultural-fit-can-trump-qualifications#r=hpt-lst">a recent piece</a> looking at interview questions companies ask applicants in order to figure out whether or not someone will be &#8220;cultural fit&#8221; in their organization. From my own experience, cultural fit is something especially valued at startup companies, and can often be more important than actual experience:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I once hired a woman who really didn’t have the right background or experience for the job, but who I hit it off with during the interview,&#8221; says Rebecca Grossman-Cohen, a marketing executive at News Corp. &#8220;And because we got along so well, I was able to train her easily, and she ended up doing great things for us.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Thankfully, I&#8217;ve never been asked any of these &#8220;first date&#8221; sort of questions on any job interviews I&#8217;ve ever been on (in my case, employers just want to know if you can write and report, and see examples). What makes me uncomfortable? Employers asking me first date questions during a job interview.</p>

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		<title>Lies My Recruiter Asked Me to Tell</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Maggie Hamilton</dc:creator>
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<p><img src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Screen-Shot-2012-12-19-at-4.29.02-AM-640x231.jpg" alt="" title="They&#039;re called headhunters for a reason" width="640" height="231" class="alignnone size-post640 wp-image-20298" /><br />
The daily hunt for a new job is exhausting. After a long day at work, it&#8217;s tough to trek home and then hop on the computer to scour Indeed.com or Idealist.org for the latest postings, all while eating leftover Pad Thai.<br />
 <br />
Enter: The Recruiter.<br />
 <br />
I thought adding headhunters would be a good addition to my job-seeking arsenal. I contacted two—both whom were recommended by friends. The first recruiter fizzled out after I told him I was interested in a graphic design position, but couldn&#8217;t afford to live on a junior-level salary. When I told him I was thinking of just abandoning the whole design route altogether and that I was extremely open to other fields, I never heard from him again. I chalked it up to a good rehearsal experience, and moved on to the next agency. <!--more--><br />
 <br />
With some practice under my belt, I confirmed my appointment with my next recruiter and prepared to meet with her. I picked out my outfit (a gray shift dress, a purple cardigan, and heels), purchased a new portfolio for my resume and notes, thought about answers to questions she might ask, and selected jobs from their website that I was interested in. I went in prepared, ready to get a new job.<br />
 <br />
The meeting seemed full of promise. Her agency specialized in placing executive assistants—the type of job I thought could provide an opportunity to get my foot in the door at a company I found interesting. After I arrived, she even brought over a few of her colleagues and gave them her pitch, and they all seemed excited and said they had a few positions in mind for me.<br />
 <br />
&#8220;This is fantastic!&#8221; I thought. &#8220;I&#8217;ll be giving my notice in no time!&#8221; I started envisioning my week off before I started the new gig. Oh, the things I would accomplish.<br />
 <br />
After going over my resume and giving me some things to tweak or expand on, the recruiter told me she wanted me to change my current title (luxury sales) to &#8220;Executive Assistant to the President.&#8221; I know a lot of people pad their resume and tell white lies, but it would become very clear in three minutes that I have never been an executive assistant to any presidents.<br />
 <br />
Could I be an executive assistant and be awesome? Absolutely. But I&#8217;m a terrible liar. I went home, made some tweaks, and, as a compromise, included that administrative assistant had been part of my job description at one time, which was true. But I wasn’t going to go any further than that.<br />
 <br />
A few days after the meeting, I sent the recruiter back my updated resume, with a note that I thought it would be misleading to call myself an executive assistant. I said I was excited about the possibilities and was eager to learn. It became clear to me that she was not impressed by my honesty, because the trail quickly went cold.<br />
 <br />
Contact with her has been one-sided: &#8220;Hey there! Just checking in. Do you need anything from me? Here’s an updated resume! Please call me! I’ll name my first born after you. Do you like homemade cookies?&#8221;</p>
<p>I can’t get a response. It is so frustrating to go from being hopeful to dejected. I have one more recruiter to contact via a friend’s recommendation, but I&#8217;m wondering if it will just be a waste of time. Has anyone had any good experiences with recruiters? There has to be some good ones out there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><em><strong>Previously:</strong> <a href="http://thebillfold.com/2012/10/im-stuck-in-a-career-rut/">&#8220;I&#8217;m Stuck in a Career Rut&#8221;</a></em></p>
<p><em>Maggie Hamilton lives in New York City and is an avid pie-baker, cat-stalker, and park-runner. She&#8217;s awaiting your job offers at <a href="mailto:maggie.hamilton.nyc@gmail.com">maggie.hamilton.nyc@gmail.com</a></p>

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<p><img src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Screen-Shot-2012-12-19-at-4.29.02-AM-640x231.jpg" alt="" title="They&#039;re called headhunters for a reason" width="640" height="231" class="alignnone size-post640 wp-image-20298" /><br />
The daily hunt for a new job is exhausting. After a long day at work, it&#8217;s tough to trek home and then hop on the computer to scour Indeed.com or Idealist.org for the latest postings, all while eating leftover Pad Thai.<br />
 <br />
Enter: The Recruiter.<br />
 <br />
I thought adding headhunters would be a good addition to my job-seeking arsenal. I contacted two—both whom were recommended by friends. The first recruiter fizzled out after I told him I was interested in a graphic design position, but couldn&#8217;t afford to live on a junior-level salary. When I told him I was thinking of just abandoning the whole design route altogether and that I was extremely open to other fields, I never heard from him again. I chalked it up to a good rehearsal experience, and moved on to the next agency. <span id="more-20297"></span><br />
 <br />
With some practice under my belt, I confirmed my appointment with my next recruiter and prepared to meet with her. I picked out my outfit (a gray shift dress, a purple cardigan, and heels), purchased a new portfolio for my resume and notes, thought about answers to questions she might ask, and selected jobs from their website that I was interested in. I went in prepared, ready to get a new job.<br />
 <br />
The meeting seemed full of promise. Her agency specialized in placing executive assistants—the type of job I thought could provide an opportunity to get my foot in the door at a company I found interesting. After I arrived, she even brought over a few of her colleagues and gave them her pitch, and they all seemed excited and said they had a few positions in mind for me.<br />
 <br />
&#8220;This is fantastic!&#8221; I thought. &#8220;I&#8217;ll be giving my notice in no time!&#8221; I started envisioning my week off before I started the new gig. Oh, the things I would accomplish.<br />
 <br />
After going over my resume and giving me some things to tweak or expand on, the recruiter told me she wanted me to change my current title (luxury sales) to &#8220;Executive Assistant to the President.&#8221; I know a lot of people pad their resume and tell white lies, but it would become very clear in three minutes that I have never been an executive assistant to any presidents.<br />
 <br />
Could I be an executive assistant and be awesome? Absolutely. But I&#8217;m a terrible liar. I went home, made some tweaks, and, as a compromise, included that administrative assistant had been part of my job description at one time, which was true. But I wasn’t going to go any further than that.<br />
 <br />
A few days after the meeting, I sent the recruiter back my updated resume, with a note that I thought it would be misleading to call myself an executive assistant. I said I was excited about the possibilities and was eager to learn. It became clear to me that she was not impressed by my honesty, because the trail quickly went cold.<br />
 <br />
Contact with her has been one-sided: &#8220;Hey there! Just checking in. Do you need anything from me? Here’s an updated resume! Please call me! I’ll name my first born after you. Do you like homemade cookies?&#8221;</p>
<p>I can’t get a response. It is so frustrating to go from being hopeful to dejected. I have one more recruiter to contact via a friend’s recommendation, but I&#8217;m wondering if it will just be a waste of time. Has anyone had any good experiences with recruiters? There has to be some good ones out there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><em><strong>Previously:</strong> <a href="http://thebillfold.com/2012/10/im-stuck-in-a-career-rut/">&#8220;I&#8217;m Stuck in a Career Rut&#8221;</a></em></p>
<p><em>Maggie Hamilton lives in New York City and is an avid pie-baker, cat-stalker, and park-runner. She&#8217;s awaiting your job offers at <a href="mailto:maggie.hamilton.nyc@gmail.com">maggie.hamilton.nyc@gmail.com</a></p>

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		<title>Who Will Hire the New College Grads?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike Dang</dc:creator>
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<p><img src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Screen-Shot-2012-11-13-at-9.03.24-AM-150x150.jpg" alt="" title="Somebody is going to hire these kids eventually" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-17707" />A lot of recent graduates are worried that they&#8217;ll have a difficult time finding a job right now, and it&#8217;s <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/jobs/bridging-the-hiring-gap-for-college-graduates.html">attitudes like these from employers</a> that won&#8217;t help them feel any better about it:</p>
<blockquote><p>Every C.E.O. I met described recent graduates as lacking the skills and discipline required in today’s workplace. They complained that young employees deemed themselves entitled to promotion before mastering their assigned tasks. All concluded, in effect, “Let them grow up on someone else’s payroll.”</p>
<p>I replied that my interviews with young people showed that many had records of part-time jobs and excellent grades at selective schools that seemed to make them promising candidates. But executives countered that recent graduates had emerged from universities whose weakened requirements didn’t prepare them for the complex jobs that companies must now fill.</p></blockquote>
<p>Robert Goldfarb, the consultant who interviewed these C.E.O.s argues that graduates with broad educations bring in fresh ideas that can change &#8220;outdated practices.&#8221; Also, I&#8217;d like to know who all these entitled young people these employers keep complaining about are, because they&#8217;re ruining it for all the <a href="http://business.time.com/2012/11/08/millennials-turns-out-the-entitled-generation-is-willing-to-sacrifice/">hardworking new graduates</a> who are ready to roll up their sleeves and work their way up from the bottom.</p>

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<p><img src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Screen-Shot-2012-11-13-at-9.03.24-AM-150x150.jpg" alt="" title="Somebody is going to hire these kids eventually" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-17707" />A lot of recent graduates are worried that they&#8217;ll have a difficult time finding a job right now, and it&#8217;s <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/jobs/bridging-the-hiring-gap-for-college-graduates.html">attitudes like these from employers</a> that won&#8217;t help them feel any better about it:</p>
<blockquote><p>Every C.E.O. I met described recent graduates as lacking the skills and discipline required in today’s workplace. They complained that young employees deemed themselves entitled to promotion before mastering their assigned tasks. All concluded, in effect, “Let them grow up on someone else’s payroll.”</p>
<p>I replied that my interviews with young people showed that many had records of part-time jobs and excellent grades at selective schools that seemed to make them promising candidates. But executives countered that recent graduates had emerged from universities whose weakened requirements didn’t prepare them for the complex jobs that companies must now fill.</p></blockquote>
<p>Robert Goldfarb, the consultant who interviewed these C.E.O.s argues that graduates with broad educations bring in fresh ideas that can change &#8220;outdated practices.&#8221; Also, I&#8217;d like to know who all these entitled young people these employers keep complaining about are, because they&#8217;re ruining it for all the <a href="http://business.time.com/2012/11/08/millennials-turns-out-the-entitled-generation-is-willing-to-sacrifice/">hardworking new graduates</a> who are ready to roll up their sleeves and work their way up from the bottom.</p>

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		<title>Standing in the County Line</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Deji Wesey</dc:creator>
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<p><img src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/waiting-for-social-services-640x309.jpg" alt="" title="Standing in the country line" width="640" height="309" class="alignnone size-post640 wp-image-10546" /><br />
<i>&#8220;This ain’t funny so don’t you dare laugh; because it’s all about money ain’t a damn thing funny.&#8221; — Coolio, County Line</i></p>
<p>It’s 10:30 a.m. on a Wednesday in Los Angeles. I’m one of the 60-plus people anxiously waiting in Lobby 1 of the Department of Social Services. I’m not the only one here seeking government aid, but I’m 100 percent sure I’m the only person sitting here with a bachelor’s degree from one of the country’s top private Universities.</p>
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<p>I’ve seen poverty. I grew up in South Central Los Angeles, and I&#8217;ve been sent to the store with food stamps by a relative. But, I never would have thought that I would be applying for food stamps and General Relief as an adult. The only time my immediate family saw hard times was when my dad, an engineer, got laid off from his job. As a family, we sacrificed eating out on Friday nights and our weekly family trips to the movie theater. After a grueling nine-month stint of unemployment, my dad was hired by an even larger international company than the one he had previously worked for. He saw a better compensation package, and increased responsibility.</p>
<p>I’ve been laid off for 21 months, and I’ve never really been anywhere near being able to afford to take care of a family. At the 18-month mark, my unemployment benefits extension was denied. I had to find an income solution—and fast—because I would soon learn that the last unemployment verification form I received that indicated I would be receiving one more check was sent in error. I wasn’t getting another unemployment check, regardless of the $3,068 that remained on my claim. Yes, they even sent me a letter telling me how much money was left on my claim that I wasn’t going to be receiving. <!--more--></p>
<p>That&#8217;s not all: The Employment Development Department (EDD) also reported to the Department of Social Services (DSS) that I was going to receive that last unemployment payment. So, not only did they incorrectly tell me I was going to get paid, they&#8217;ve also told DSS that I was going to get paid. Because of this false information, DSS will be awarding me $14 in food stamps.</p>
<p>I discover this one day while standing in my parents&#8217; kitchen, holding the letter in shocked silence. I think about all those hours I spent studying for my college exams. I think about all the time I spent working to keep a high grade point average. I think about all the sleepless, anxiety-filled nights I spent sending out resumes and cover letters. I think about how I spent the last month interviewing for a position, and how the company decided to go with an internal candidate. I think about all the hard work and dedication I gave to companies that appeared to disregard me at the drop of a hat. I think about the prayers. I think about the Occupy movement. And finally, I think about how I&#8217;m standing in a kitchen, holding a piece of paper that basically says, &#8220;You just hit rock bottom&#8230;again.&#8221;</p>
<p><img src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/walletfavicon.jpeg" alt="" title="Wallet Icon" width="20" height="17" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-8524" /></p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m here on a Wednesday morning, &#8220;standing in the county line.&#8221; I&#8217;m trying to clear up all of the misinformation, and increase the amount of food stamps I’m eligible for. It’s now 10:45 a.m., and I’m waiting on an appointment that was scheduled for 10 a.m. I got here at 9:30 a.m., because when I scheduled this appointment with my case worker, she told me to be here on time, and that she would come right down and take care of my paper work. When I start poking around, I find out that she isn’t even in the office today.</p>
<p>At 11:30 a.m., I realize I just wasted more than two hours of my life sitting in a room with people who either don’t have the motivation, or the resources to do better. One guy is sitting next to me with his headphones on intensely reciting rap lyrics he had jotted down on his late model iPhone. There are also a couple girls sitting off in the back of the room playing R&#038;B songs on the speaker of a smart phone. They turn Lobby 1 into a lounge as they loudly observe the &#8220;sexiness&#8221; of the other men in the room. Security guards are given the responsibility of corralling children who are running around wildly, and sending them back to their unconcerned parents. I don&#8217;t feel like I fit in with this crowd, or belong in a place where people who seemingly do not have &#8220;life skills&#8221; come to seek government assistance and guidance. As I exit the building, a woman with a name tag shouts at me, &#8220;job training!&#8221;</p>
<p><img src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/walletfavicon.jpeg" alt="" title="Wallet Icon" width="20" height="17" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-8524" /></p>
<p>I head back home and think that I might be able to get out of this situation if I just stick with it, and apply to more jobs. In this day and age, it&#8217;s very difficult to get a job even if you&#8217;re qualified for it. You have to know someone on the inside, or find an edge, because the field is way too <a href="http://www.ktvn.com/story/19250963/hundreds-apply-for-jobs-at-fernleys-amazon-warehouse">competitive</a>. My Craigslist job search lands me right in the middle of a check cashing scam. I’m thinking I’ve found a way to make a couple hundred dollars a week to cover my cell phone bill and car insurance by running a few administrative errands, but these criminals are just trying to get me to launder money.</p>
<p>I log on to CareerBuilder, and find a freelance writing position that allows you to work remotely, only to find myself being prompted to buy something to submit my resume for the opportunity. Is this what America has come to? Is capitalism so bad in this country that exploiting people looking for employment has <a href="http://thebillfold.com/2012/07/someone-will-look-at-your-resume-for-5/">become a business</a>? In this country, the underemployed and unemployed are being preyed upon for their need to make more money to survive. Someone actually sat down while creating a business/marketing plan and said, &#8220;The unemployed are an easy target.&#8221; No one should have to pay a company to hire them. Isn’t that the definition of a scam? Network marketing companies that make people pay to join their company and sell their products are a scam. All these companies are doing is selling pipe dreams, while bleeding marginal income from their members. I’ve seen many of my friends join these companies with hopes of becoming millionaires, and years later they’re still shoveling a good chunk of their income into buying products to support their so-called &#8220;own business,&#8221; but in reality, they’re simply solidifying profits for these companies.</p>
<p>I ask myself, &#8220;Where do I go from here?&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a very difficult question considering that I’ve only had one major interview in 21 months. I’ve sprained my neck trying to break into the acting world as a stunt man. I’ve sat in lobbies for interviews flanked by baby boomers with decades more experience than me. I’ve worked retail for $8.50/hour when my skill set is well worth an $80,000 salary. Going back to school seems to be my best option, but I know that a Master’s degree doesn’t guarantee income, so it doesn&#8217;t make a lot of sense to dig a five-figure hole of debt to get one.</p>
<p>I ask myself, &#8220;Where does America go from here?&#8221;</p>
<p>We’re in a death spiral that’s been getting worse for the last 10 years. When the people that are being affected by it the most speak out, the powers that be shut them up by making it seem criminal to want the American Dream. As a child of the &#8217;80s, I can say that the American Dream was shoved down my throat every day, and I was lead to believe that all I had to do was get a Bachelor’s degree and I could get a nice job and live a nice life. Wrong—in this day and age, the American Dream is a fallacy perpetuated by substance-less reality TV stars. I used to have visions of BMWs and houses, but now I just want to make enough money to have a decent home and raise a family. How exactly is it that I’m going to accomplish this? I don’t know, but I’ll be contemplating it as I’m sucking up my pride and standing in the county line.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><i>Deji Wesey was born and raised in Los Angeles, Calif. His many adventures around the world have given him a unique global perspective, which he seeks to express through writing and film. He&#8217;s the author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Journey-Cultural-Exploration-ebook/dp/B006EP1CMA/?tag=thebill-20"></i>My Africa; A spiritual journey and cultural exploration.</a> <i><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/wonderlane/3752222963/">Photo: Flickr/Wonderlane</a></i></p>

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<i>&#8220;This ain’t funny so don’t you dare laugh; because it’s all about money ain’t a damn thing funny.&#8221; — Coolio, County Line</i></p>
<p>It’s 10:30 a.m. on a Wednesday in Los Angeles. I’m one of the 60-plus people anxiously waiting in Lobby 1 of the Department of Social Services. I’m not the only one here seeking government aid, but I’m 100 percent sure I’m the only person sitting here with a bachelor’s degree from one of the country’s top private Universities.</p>
<p><img src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/walletfavicon.jpeg" alt="" title="Wallet Icon" width="20" height="17" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-8524" /></p>
<p>I’ve seen poverty. I grew up in South Central Los Angeles, and I&#8217;ve been sent to the store with food stamps by a relative. But, I never would have thought that I would be applying for food stamps and General Relief as an adult. The only time my immediate family saw hard times was when my dad, an engineer, got laid off from his job. As a family, we sacrificed eating out on Friday nights and our weekly family trips to the movie theater. After a grueling nine-month stint of unemployment, my dad was hired by an even larger international company than the one he had previously worked for. He saw a better compensation package, and increased responsibility.</p>
<p>I’ve been laid off for 21 months, and I’ve never really been anywhere near being able to afford to take care of a family. At the 18-month mark, my unemployment benefits extension was denied. I had to find an income solution—and fast—because I would soon learn that the last unemployment verification form I received that indicated I would be receiving one more check was sent in error. I wasn’t getting another unemployment check, regardless of the $3,068 that remained on my claim. Yes, they even sent me a letter telling me how much money was left on my claim that I wasn’t going to be receiving. <span id="more-10544"></span></p>
<p>That&#8217;s not all: The Employment Development Department (EDD) also reported to the Department of Social Services (DSS) that I was going to receive that last unemployment payment. So, not only did they incorrectly tell me I was going to get paid, they&#8217;ve also told DSS that I was going to get paid. Because of this false information, DSS will be awarding me $14 in food stamps.</p>
<p>I discover this one day while standing in my parents&#8217; kitchen, holding the letter in shocked silence. I think about all those hours I spent studying for my college exams. I think about all the time I spent working to keep a high grade point average. I think about all the sleepless, anxiety-filled nights I spent sending out resumes and cover letters. I think about how I spent the last month interviewing for a position, and how the company decided to go with an internal candidate. I think about all the hard work and dedication I gave to companies that appeared to disregard me at the drop of a hat. I think about the prayers. I think about the Occupy movement. And finally, I think about how I&#8217;m standing in a kitchen, holding a piece of paper that basically says, &#8220;You just hit rock bottom&#8230;again.&#8221;</p>
<p><img src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/walletfavicon.jpeg" alt="" title="Wallet Icon" width="20" height="17" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-8524" /></p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m here on a Wednesday morning, &#8220;standing in the county line.&#8221; I&#8217;m trying to clear up all of the misinformation, and increase the amount of food stamps I’m eligible for. It’s now 10:45 a.m., and I’m waiting on an appointment that was scheduled for 10 a.m. I got here at 9:30 a.m., because when I scheduled this appointment with my case worker, she told me to be here on time, and that she would come right down and take care of my paper work. When I start poking around, I find out that she isn’t even in the office today.</p>
<p>At 11:30 a.m., I realize I just wasted more than two hours of my life sitting in a room with people who either don’t have the motivation, or the resources to do better. One guy is sitting next to me with his headphones on intensely reciting rap lyrics he had jotted down on his late model iPhone. There are also a couple girls sitting off in the back of the room playing R&#038;B songs on the speaker of a smart phone. They turn Lobby 1 into a lounge as they loudly observe the &#8220;sexiness&#8221; of the other men in the room. Security guards are given the responsibility of corralling children who are running around wildly, and sending them back to their unconcerned parents. I don&#8217;t feel like I fit in with this crowd, or belong in a place where people who seemingly do not have &#8220;life skills&#8221; come to seek government assistance and guidance. As I exit the building, a woman with a name tag shouts at me, &#8220;job training!&#8221;</p>
<p><img src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/walletfavicon.jpeg" alt="" title="Wallet Icon" width="20" height="17" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-8524" /></p>
<p>I head back home and think that I might be able to get out of this situation if I just stick with it, and apply to more jobs. In this day and age, it&#8217;s very difficult to get a job even if you&#8217;re qualified for it. You have to know someone on the inside, or find an edge, because the field is way too <a href="http://www.ktvn.com/story/19250963/hundreds-apply-for-jobs-at-fernleys-amazon-warehouse">competitive</a>. My Craigslist job search lands me right in the middle of a check cashing scam. I’m thinking I’ve found a way to make a couple hundred dollars a week to cover my cell phone bill and car insurance by running a few administrative errands, but these criminals are just trying to get me to launder money.</p>
<p>I log on to CareerBuilder, and find a freelance writing position that allows you to work remotely, only to find myself being prompted to buy something to submit my resume for the opportunity. Is this what America has come to? Is capitalism so bad in this country that exploiting people looking for employment has <a href="http://thebillfold.com/2012/07/someone-will-look-at-your-resume-for-5/">become a business</a>? In this country, the underemployed and unemployed are being preyed upon for their need to make more money to survive. Someone actually sat down while creating a business/marketing plan and said, &#8220;The unemployed are an easy target.&#8221; No one should have to pay a company to hire them. Isn’t that the definition of a scam? Network marketing companies that make people pay to join their company and sell their products are a scam. All these companies are doing is selling pipe dreams, while bleeding marginal income from their members. I’ve seen many of my friends join these companies with hopes of becoming millionaires, and years later they’re still shoveling a good chunk of their income into buying products to support their so-called &#8220;own business,&#8221; but in reality, they’re simply solidifying profits for these companies.</p>
<p>I ask myself, &#8220;Where do I go from here?&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a very difficult question considering that I’ve only had one major interview in 21 months. I’ve sprained my neck trying to break into the acting world as a stunt man. I’ve sat in lobbies for interviews flanked by baby boomers with decades more experience than me. I’ve worked retail for $8.50/hour when my skill set is well worth an $80,000 salary. Going back to school seems to be my best option, but I know that a Master’s degree doesn’t guarantee income, so it doesn&#8217;t make a lot of sense to dig a five-figure hole of debt to get one.</p>
<p>I ask myself, &#8220;Where does America go from here?&#8221;</p>
<p>We’re in a death spiral that’s been getting worse for the last 10 years. When the people that are being affected by it the most speak out, the powers that be shut them up by making it seem criminal to want the American Dream. As a child of the &#8217;80s, I can say that the American Dream was shoved down my throat every day, and I was lead to believe that all I had to do was get a Bachelor’s degree and I could get a nice job and live a nice life. Wrong—in this day and age, the American Dream is a fallacy perpetuated by substance-less reality TV stars. I used to have visions of BMWs and houses, but now I just want to make enough money to have a decent home and raise a family. How exactly is it that I’m going to accomplish this? I don’t know, but I’ll be contemplating it as I’m sucking up my pride and standing in the county line.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><i>Deji Wesey was born and raised in Los Angeles, Calif. His many adventures around the world have given him a unique global perspective, which he seeks to express through writing and film. He&#8217;s the author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Journey-Cultural-Exploration-ebook/dp/B006EP1CMA/?tag=thebill-20"></i>My Africa; A spiritual journey and cultural exploration.</a> <i><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/wonderlane/3752222963/">Photo: Flickr/Wonderlane</a></i></p>

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		<title>What Marc Andreessen, Jeff Bezos, and Steve Jobs Looked for When Hiring Someone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Dang</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ by <a href="/user/2/mike" title="Posts by Mike Dang">Mike Dang</a>
<p><a href="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/startup_office.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4858" title="Never change who you are" src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/startup_office.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="289" /></a></p>
<p>As a followup to this <a href="http://thebillfold.com/2012/05/unconventional-job-interviews/">morning&#8217;s post</a>, I completed my graduate program in 2007, AKA the worst time to look for a stable job because the economy was having a huge meltdown. I remember going to a job event at school where <em>The New Yorker&#8217;s </em>David Remnick told us that although the journalism industry was struggling, <em>The New Yorker</em> was thriving, and that we should look for jobs in places that were thriving like they were. The advice was hilarious to me at first—sure, let&#8217;s all go work at <em>The New Yorker</em>! But it actually got me thinking about what I could do to make it as a living as a writer, and that thought process led me to the then-burgeoning startup scene in New York.</p>
<p>While traditional outlets were imploding (and <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g-VEJIvNQKJKPe6Pz4fWFot76Iyw?docId=ecc3151fb82e44dd98446f33dd4258c7">still are</a>)—a few lucky/unfortunate friends got jobs at venerable publications <em>like The New York Times</em>, and then swiftly lost their jobs—startups were beginning to find themselves flush with cash from venture capitalists, and they were in desperate need of not only programmers, but people who could write well for the Web. I got an early in, and I held on for a wild ride. I was instilled with an entrepreneurial spirit that has led me here, to this startup of a blog. <!--more--></p>
<p>Interviewing for startup companies was an interesting experience because I was used to wearing a suit to all my interviews, and the places I met with were a bit more casual than that. Sometimes it seemed like they were more interested in me as an individual, rather than me, the person with a graduate degree and previous job experience. Sometimes they were just interested in my ideas for what I thought the next big thing was going to be. Sometimes they just wanted to see how active I was with social media (remember when being a &#8220;social media expert&#8221; was shiny, new, and super desirable?).</p>
<p>Kate Huyett, who works in marketing for the dating site <a href="http://www.howaboutwe.com/">HowAboutWe</a>, put together a <a href="http://khuyi.tumblr.com/post/23657713200/good-reading-on-hiring">helpful reading list</a> about hiring because the startup is currently doing a lot of hiring.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Marc Andreessen, co-founder of Netscape <a href="http://pmarchive.com/how_to_hire_the_best_people">in a 2007 post</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>For the background part, I like to see what someone has <em>done</em>.</p>
<p>Not been involved in, or been part of, or watched happen, or was hanging around when it happened.</p>
<p>I look for something you&#8217;ve <em>done</em>, either in a job or (often better yet) outside of a job.</p>
<p>The business you started and ran in high school.</p>
<p>The nonprofit you started and ran in college.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re a programmer: the open source project to which you&#8217;ve made major contributions.</p>
<p>Something.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t find anything &#8212; if a candidate has just followed the rules their whole lives, showed up for the right classes and the right tests and the right career opportunities without achieving something distinct and notable, relative to their starting point &#8212; then they probably aren&#8217;t driven.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s Steve Jobs in a 1998 interview discussing the <a href="http://www.morganmissen.com/post/11403265489/steve-jobs-hiring-the-best-is-your-most-important-task">importance of recruiting</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>You’d take a lot of time finding the partner, right? He would be half of your company. Why should you take any less time finding a third of your company or a fourth of your company or a fifth of your company? When you’re in a startup, the first ten people will determine whether the company succeeds or not. Each is 10 percent of the company. So why wouldn’t you take as much time as necessary to find all the A players? If three were not so great, why would you want a company where 30 percent of your people are not so great? A small company depends on great people much more than a big company does.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgeanders/2012/04/04/inside-amazon/4/"><em>Forbes</em> profile</a> of Jeff Bezos in April which talks about the importance of looking for employees who can push themselves and learn self-reliance:</p>
<blockquote><p>The respect for that ethic explains why Amazon screens its job candidates for a strong bias to action and an ability to work through ambiguity. Both help identify people who can innovate fast and do right by the customer. One popular interviewing tack: asking candidates to create an action plan as brand managers in an area where they lack any direct knowledge—and then being told they have no budget.</p>
<p>Stumped candidates will find their path into Amazon slipping away. Those who cobble together guerrilla answers—informal polls through free online tools such as SurveyMonkey—tend to thrive at Amazon. They are the same people who might have challenged Bezos in math class and also succeeded on Grandpa’s ranch.</p></blockquote>
<p>One great thing I learned from working at startups is that you should never try to change yourself to fit some sort of ideal candidate you think a company is looking for (unless changing yourself is what you want to do in the first place). The places I thrived the most were the places that liked me for who I am, which is a shy, somewhat quiet writer with a lot of ideas (thanks to The Awl for liking me for who I am).</p>
<p><em>Photo: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/alper/4288350640/">Flickr/illustir</a></em></p>

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<p><a href="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/startup_office.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4858" title="Never change who you are" src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/startup_office.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="289" /></a></p>
<p>As a followup to this <a href="http://thebillfold.com/2012/05/unconventional-job-interviews/">morning&#8217;s post</a>, I completed my graduate program in 2007, AKA the worst time to look for a stable job because the economy was having a huge meltdown. I remember going to a job event at school where <em>The New Yorker&#8217;s </em>David Remnick told us that although the journalism industry was struggling, <em>The New Yorker</em> was thriving, and that we should look for jobs in places that were thriving like they were. The advice was hilarious to me at first—sure, let&#8217;s all go work at <em>The New Yorker</em>! But it actually got me thinking about what I could do to make it as a living as a writer, and that thought process led me to the then-burgeoning startup scene in New York.</p>
<p>While traditional outlets were imploding (and <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g-VEJIvNQKJKPe6Pz4fWFot76Iyw?docId=ecc3151fb82e44dd98446f33dd4258c7">still are</a>)—a few lucky/unfortunate friends got jobs at venerable publications <em>like The New York Times</em>, and then swiftly lost their jobs—startups were beginning to find themselves flush with cash from venture capitalists, and they were in desperate need of not only programmers, but people who could write well for the Web. I got an early in, and I held on for a wild ride. I was instilled with an entrepreneurial spirit that has led me here, to this startup of a blog. <span id="more-4857"></span></p>
<p>Interviewing for startup companies was an interesting experience because I was used to wearing a suit to all my interviews, and the places I met with were a bit more casual than that. Sometimes it seemed like they were more interested in me as an individual, rather than me, the person with a graduate degree and previous job experience. Sometimes they were just interested in my ideas for what I thought the next big thing was going to be. Sometimes they just wanted to see how active I was with social media (remember when being a &#8220;social media expert&#8221; was shiny, new, and super desirable?).</p>
<p>Kate Huyett, who works in marketing for the dating site <a href="http://www.howaboutwe.com/">HowAboutWe</a>, put together a <a href="http://khuyi.tumblr.com/post/23657713200/good-reading-on-hiring">helpful reading list</a> about hiring because the startup is currently doing a lot of hiring.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Marc Andreessen, co-founder of Netscape <a href="http://pmarchive.com/how_to_hire_the_best_people">in a 2007 post</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>For the background part, I like to see what someone has <em>done</em>.</p>
<p>Not been involved in, or been part of, or watched happen, or was hanging around when it happened.</p>
<p>I look for something you&#8217;ve <em>done</em>, either in a job or (often better yet) outside of a job.</p>
<p>The business you started and ran in high school.</p>
<p>The nonprofit you started and ran in college.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re a programmer: the open source project to which you&#8217;ve made major contributions.</p>
<p>Something.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t find anything &#8212; if a candidate has just followed the rules their whole lives, showed up for the right classes and the right tests and the right career opportunities without achieving something distinct and notable, relative to their starting point &#8212; then they probably aren&#8217;t driven.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s Steve Jobs in a 1998 interview discussing the <a href="http://www.morganmissen.com/post/11403265489/steve-jobs-hiring-the-best-is-your-most-important-task">importance of recruiting</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>You’d take a lot of time finding the partner, right? He would be half of your company. Why should you take any less time finding a third of your company or a fourth of your company or a fifth of your company? When you’re in a startup, the first ten people will determine whether the company succeeds or not. Each is 10 percent of the company. So why wouldn’t you take as much time as necessary to find all the A players? If three were not so great, why would you want a company where 30 percent of your people are not so great? A small company depends on great people much more than a big company does.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgeanders/2012/04/04/inside-amazon/4/"><em>Forbes</em> profile</a> of Jeff Bezos in April which talks about the importance of looking for employees who can push themselves and learn self-reliance:</p>
<blockquote><p>The respect for that ethic explains why Amazon screens its job candidates for a strong bias to action and an ability to work through ambiguity. Both help identify people who can innovate fast and do right by the customer. One popular interviewing tack: asking candidates to create an action plan as brand managers in an area where they lack any direct knowledge—and then being told they have no budget.</p>
<p>Stumped candidates will find their path into Amazon slipping away. Those who cobble together guerrilla answers—informal polls through free online tools such as SurveyMonkey—tend to thrive at Amazon. They are the same people who might have challenged Bezos in math class and also succeeded on Grandpa’s ranch.</p></blockquote>
<p>One great thing I learned from working at startups is that you should never try to change yourself to fit some sort of ideal candidate you think a company is looking for (unless changing yourself is what you want to do in the first place). The places I thrived the most were the places that liked me for who I am, which is a shy, somewhat quiet writer with a lot of ideas (thanks to The Awl for liking me for who I am).</p>
<p><em>Photo: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/alper/4288350640/">Flickr/illustir</a></em></p>

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