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<p><strong><a href="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/avengers3.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4437" title="avengers3" src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/avengers3.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="297" /></a></strong></p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Allo‬!</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Ester, I have Battleship fever this morning‬. It&#8217;s all I can think about.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Ha! 15-F. Let&#8217;s just play Battleship for a while instead of doing this review.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Yes, great, thank you‬. E-6.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Clearly I have forgotten how to play Battleship‬. In my defense, it has been, um, like 20 years? G-21.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> No you&#8217;re doing fine. Then I say &#8220;hit&#8221; or &#8220;miss&#8221;, and then there is Rihanna somehow‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> At some point, one of us gets to say, &#8220;Damn! You got my Destroyer!&#8221; A Destroyer is a ship, right?</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> You have to say, &#8220;You SUNK my destroyer,&#8221; otherwise I believe it does not count?‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Oh.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Alright, neither of us are necessarily bringing our A-game on this Battleship material, maybe we should do the actual thing‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> I am as ignorant about Battleship as I am about comic books and comic book movies.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> A good entry point!‬ NEITHER of us have seen more than one of the associated films in the Avengers series.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> And the only one either of us has seen is the first <em>Iron Man</em>.‬ So we went in without much background.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Also, according to some googling I did this morning, <em>Iron Man 2, Captain America</em> and <em>Thor</em> are the only ones that really directly tie into this movie‬. So having seen the first <em>Iron Man</em> barely counts‬. BUT. Were we confused at all? We were not.‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> No, we were not. And we discussed this going in—we felt reasonably confident we could follow the plot of a bunch of superheroes defending the world against <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1089991/">F. Scott Fitzgerald gone rogue</a>.‬ <!--more--></p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Yeah. You made fun of me a little beforehand for being concerned that I wouldn&#8217;t know what was going on‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Perhaps we should mention that two separate 2D showings we tried to see were sold out? On a THURSDAY. And then our 3D showing, which cost ordinary mortals $17 each, was like half full. I think it would have been just as enjoyable in regular-D.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Yeah absolutely. This movie was post-converted, aka not actually shot in 3D, which is always a red flag‬. Also, having figured that out, I think we should be exempted from having to see any more post-converted 3D movies. Always just go see the 2D version.‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Absolutely. That said, we both enjoyed this film, silly (expensive) glasses and all.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> We did. I was a little nervous that I would be more on-board for this one than you would‬. But after laughing through some of the bad dialogue in the first 20 minutes, you got pretty into it!</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> I was into it even while I was laughing! (Plus when I laugh the baby shakes around and that makes me laugh more.) I loved the part where, after Thor and Loki where having their brotherly confrontation in the woods, Iron Man showed up and said, &#8220;What is this, Shakespeare in the Park?&#8221;‬ Cuz they were being so formal and stuffy! It was perfect.</p>
<p><a href="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/avengers2.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4438" title="avengers2" src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/avengers2.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="293" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Yes‬. This movie was FUNNY. It was my favorite thing about it! And we of course know who we have to thank for that.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> JOSS!‬ Joss I love you, and I always wanted to see what you&#8217;d do with an actual special FX budget, since <em>Buffy</em> was made for a buffalo nickel.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> I mean really. Just the fact that this movie is not offensively stupid, and that it actually surprises you and makes you laugh at points, is such an accomplishment‬. Because a hundred billion people would have gone to see it anyway.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Joss Whedon did a good job directing. This movie made me yearn for his version of <em>The Hunger Games.</em></p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> His version of everything, really‬. This is where I show you the picture of me and Joss Whedon from when I ran into him at a dance party at Wesleyan many years ago.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/joss-and-me.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-4433 aligncenter" title="joss and me" src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/joss-and-me-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Wow.‬ Hey, speaking of which, can we dig into the beefcake buffet now and take about the Avengers themselves?</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> You should feel free to do so,‬ and I will watch.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> They were like the Spice Girls! There was Posh Spice (Iron Man), Sporty Spice (Captain America) &#8230;‬<br />
Um. Who were the other Spice Girls? Never mind, I&#8217;ll improvise: 2nd-Rate Brad Pitt Spice (Thor), Adorably Rumpled Intellectual Spice (Hulk, in his Dr. Bruce Banner guise)‬.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> I know who the other Spice Girls were but I am not going to say‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Not fair!‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Ginger Baby Scary. Just forget it leave me alone‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Hahahahahaha‬. Ginger Spice! That&#8217;s easy: Black Widow. And then Jeremy Renner is Baby-Faced Spice (Hawk). Or maybe poor <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0163988/">Agent Phil Colson</a>, previously known as Agent Casper from <em>The West Wing.</em> He&#8217;s just so convincing at wearing a suit and saying &#8220;Sir&#8221;!</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Yeah, the guy from <em>New Adventures of Old Christine</em> was great‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> It would have been amazing if they had broken into song. And very Whedon, since he loves his musicals.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> I put the odds at 50/50 that this was actually shot and it&#8217;s a feature on the blu-ray‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> I would pay for that!‬ Especially if it included a kick line. But okay. So. This movie has made unthinkable amounts of money. Here are some fun facts from <a href=" http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=avengers11.htm">Box Office Mojo.</a>  It is the #6 highest grossing movie ever ALREADY after less than three weeks.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Wow. &#8220;The 2nd-highest-grossing movie in which someone eats a banana ever!&#8221; Thanks Box Office Mojo.‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Yes, that site is a never-ending treasure trove.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> It&#8217;s true though. I want to reiterate: We saw this movie last night, after it had been out for TWO WEEKS, and we failed to get into TWO SEPARATE SCREENINGS.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Since we&#8217;re writing for a money site, I should say that I used these very special vouchers that I bought eight years ago for $5.50 and they let us into a 3D screening for only a $2 surcharge per voucher. So we saw this movie in 3D for only $7.50 each (plus the stress of dealing with the geniuses who work at movie theaters these days)‬. At that price, this movie was TOTALLY worth it. I would even have paid $12-$13. What about you?</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> I agree. I almost wish this came out a little later, becuase it&#8217;s so good at being a summer blockbuster‬. I made a joke last time about how we failed as Americans in not seeing this movie two weeks ago, and last night I definitely felt one with the all-American rite of the summer movie. Were you surprised at how much you liked it?‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Yes, it was so very all-American! And yes, I had very low expectations. I did laugh inappropriately at several points but I was honestly caught up in the story from the start.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> So, this might be obvious, but I think we should note that neither you nor I regularly go see movies like this‬. Like, I had a great time last night, but part of me also wonders whether we were just marveling at all the shiny turning gears. &#8220;Well shucks would you look at that!&#8221; This movie is definitely not universally loved by my Facebook friends, some of whom have posted things like &#8220;AVENGERS IS THE MOST OVERRATED MOVIE OF ALL TIME!!!!&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Eh.‬ Like I said, I only read middling / mixed reviews beforehand, so I wasn&#8217;t expecting much. But the story was not convoluted: It made sense (even though I can&#8217;t hear &#8220;tesseract&#8221; without thinking of <em>A Wrinkle in Time</em>); it had good characters and used them to advantage; the battle scenes were well-shot and clear; there was stuff at stake (the fate of earth!); and the script was funny.‬ I&#8217;m not sure what more can be asked from a movie like this. (Except that it didn&#8217;t pass the Ms. / <a href="http://bechdeltest.com/">Bechdel test</a>, which is too bad, but we will let it go this once, Joss Whedon, because of <em>Buffy</em>.)</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> I don&#8217;t even think our movie theater passed the Bechdel test, but whatever‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> There were at least three significant female characters, which was nice.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Three? Cobie Smulders, Scarlett Johanssen, who else?‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Pepper Potts!‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam</strong>: Oh right. Well there you go.‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Whose banter with Iron Man I enjoyed.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Yeah, she&#8217;s only in it early on, but it&#8217;s a good scene‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> I thought that was too bad, too, cuz I wanted more. But I&#8217;m glad they didn&#8217;t make her a hostage and have the Avengers / Iron Man save her, a la Spiderman.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> True—it&#8217;s worth noting that there&#8217;s no romantic clinch at the heart of this movie, which sounds stupid to say but is actually pretty significant‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> True!‬ Even Scar Jo doesn&#8217;t get laid. Though those looks she exchanges with Hawkeye are pretty expressive.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> You&#8217;re right, that may count as sex‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> In the 40s, anyway.‬ And this movie was kind of adorably retro. So wholesome!‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> They Learn To Work Together‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> There&#8217;s excellent chemistry among all the cast members, I should say, not just the two assassins.‬ Which makes it more fun to watch them Learn to Work Together (and also squabble, when they do squabble).</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Yeah. Even though I was never really into comic books as a kid, this movie really reactivated those childhood fantasy feelings of wishing that all my favorite cartoon and Nintendo characters would get together‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Hee!‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> I was definitely like &#8220;Thor and the Hulk are MEETING!! Eeeeee!!!&#8221; But wait a minute, I don&#8217;t actually care about Thor or the Hulk‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> It was confusing to me who was supposed to be strongest. You couldn&#8217;t just judge by musculature, which made it difficult!‬ Also I have a sneaking suspicion the hierarchy of strength of these Avengers wasn&#8217;t terribly well thought-out and adhered to.</p>
<p><a href="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/avengers1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4439" title="avengers1" src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/avengers1.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="340" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Haha. You definitely expressed some confusion about how Thor&#8217;s hammer worked. I explained that only Thor can pick it up! You were not convinced.‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> I just don&#8217;t understand! These other guys are very beefy.‬ Also, how does his hammer always return to his hand?</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> ESTER IT&#8217;S A MAGIC HAMMER.‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> So you&#8217;re saying it&#8217;s magnets?‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Thor comes from a magical world!!!‬ I can&#8217;t believe I am saying these things‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Don&#8217;t give me that shit. He comes from Scandinavia.‬ Although why he can&#8217;t wash his hair or speak using contractions &#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Thor comes from a magical world and so he is the only Avenger who is magic-based. The others were all created from science‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> OH SCIENCE‬.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Please god don&#8217;t let any Billfold commenters know anything about comic books‬. ANYWAY. Maybe we should sum up.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Sure!‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Neither of us are huge superhero movie fans, but that did not lessen our enjoyment of this movie as a good summer action-y time‬. ON TOP OF THAT, it is funny and kind of smart.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> We laughed a lot! And the baby started kicking. I don&#8217;t know what that means exactly but I think it&#8217;s good.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Box Office Mojo does say that this is the most successful movie ever with fetuses‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> ahhahahahaha‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> So that makes total sense‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> <img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/YkS8RAv0xcXaK5_w14QjYoEfvmC8orb09qzesjebAXAJbo18W43J4Ss9f86exdp39IcaqP94NVAq2X-MNY5JK5J785dwBxGhWP1XDGje3SsXNFPJuv4" alt="" width="1px;" height="1px;" />‬All right, hot shot. So. How much do you think it was worth paying to see it</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Don&#8217;t do the 3D. Pay 12 bucks for this. And buy your ticket online, since this movie is still selling out for some reason‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> I agree. $12-$13 is totally sufficiently to pay to see this, but it will be worth your while.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> O‬h wait!! We never talked about Ruffalo! Ruffalo is the best thing in this movie by miles.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> He is so very very good.‬ So adorably disheveled and trying to control himself. But if I were<br />
only going to do it with one Avenger, he would not be my choice. Jeremy Renner had weirdly strong sex appeal in this movie. I cannot explain why. Maybe even stronger than Robert Downey Jr&#8217;s.‬</p>
<p><a href="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/jeremy-renner.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4443" title="jeremy renner" src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/jeremy-renner.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="314" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Hm.‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Do you disagree or are you just waiting patiently for me to stop thinking along these lines?‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> No don&#8217;t worry about it, I think it&#8217;s very important that we establish who in this movie you&#8217;d most like to have sex with‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Well I had so many more choices than you did!‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> True. I definitely felt marginalized by this movie.‬</p>
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<p><strong><em>CONSENSUS: You should pay $12-13 to see The Avengers.</em></strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Previously:</strong> <em><a href="http://thebillfold.com/2012/04/titanic-3d-leos-still-swoonworthy-but-is-it-worth-watching-again/">Titanic 3-D</a></em></p>
<p><em><a href="http://esterbloom.com/">Ester Bloom</a></em><em> appreciates that Adam doesn&#8217;t objectify any of the ladies, despite the tight leather costumes, whereas she&#8217;s buttering these guys up with her eyes. Follow her <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/shorterstory">@shorterstory</a></em></p>
<p><em>Adam Freelander would never name a file &#8220;joss and me.jpg.&#8221; Follow him <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/adamplease">@adamplease</a>.</em></p>

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<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Allo‬!</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Ester, I have Battleship fever this morning‬. It&#8217;s all I can think about.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Ha! 15-F. Let&#8217;s just play Battleship for a while instead of doing this review.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Yes, great, thank you‬. E-6.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Clearly I have forgotten how to play Battleship‬. In my defense, it has been, um, like 20 years? G-21.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> No you&#8217;re doing fine. Then I say &#8220;hit&#8221; or &#8220;miss&#8221;, and then there is Rihanna somehow‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> At some point, one of us gets to say, &#8220;Damn! You got my Destroyer!&#8221; A Destroyer is a ship, right?</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> You have to say, &#8220;You SUNK my destroyer,&#8221; otherwise I believe it does not count?‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Oh.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Alright, neither of us are necessarily bringing our A-game on this Battleship material, maybe we should do the actual thing‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> I am as ignorant about Battleship as I am about comic books and comic book movies.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> A good entry point!‬ NEITHER of us have seen more than one of the associated films in the Avengers series.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> And the only one either of us has seen is the first <em>Iron Man</em>.‬ So we went in without much background.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Also, according to some googling I did this morning, <em>Iron Man 2, Captain America</em> and <em>Thor</em> are the only ones that really directly tie into this movie‬. So having seen the first <em>Iron Man</em> barely counts‬. BUT. Were we confused at all? We were not.‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> No, we were not. And we discussed this going in—we felt reasonably confident we could follow the plot of a bunch of superheroes defending the world against <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1089991/">F. Scott Fitzgerald gone rogue</a>.‬ <span id="more-4432"></span></p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Yeah. You made fun of me a little beforehand for being concerned that I wouldn&#8217;t know what was going on‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Perhaps we should mention that two separate 2D showings we tried to see were sold out? On a THURSDAY. And then our 3D showing, which cost ordinary mortals $17 each, was like half full. I think it would have been just as enjoyable in regular-D.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Yeah absolutely. This movie was post-converted, aka not actually shot in 3D, which is always a red flag‬. Also, having figured that out, I think we should be exempted from having to see any more post-converted 3D movies. Always just go see the 2D version.‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Absolutely. That said, we both enjoyed this film, silly (expensive) glasses and all.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> We did. I was a little nervous that I would be more on-board for this one than you would‬. But after laughing through some of the bad dialogue in the first 20 minutes, you got pretty into it!</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> I was into it even while I was laughing! (Plus when I laugh the baby shakes around and that makes me laugh more.) I loved the part where, after Thor and Loki where having their brotherly confrontation in the woods, Iron Man showed up and said, &#8220;What is this, Shakespeare in the Park?&#8221;‬ Cuz they were being so formal and stuffy! It was perfect.</p>
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<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Yes‬. This movie was FUNNY. It was my favorite thing about it! And we of course know who we have to thank for that.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> JOSS!‬ Joss I love you, and I always wanted to see what you&#8217;d do with an actual special FX budget, since <em>Buffy</em> was made for a buffalo nickel.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> I mean really. Just the fact that this movie is not offensively stupid, and that it actually surprises you and makes you laugh at points, is such an accomplishment‬. Because a hundred billion people would have gone to see it anyway.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Joss Whedon did a good job directing. This movie made me yearn for his version of <em>The Hunger Games.</em></p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> His version of everything, really‬. This is where I show you the picture of me and Joss Whedon from when I ran into him at a dance party at Wesleyan many years ago.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/joss-and-me.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-4433 aligncenter" title="joss and me" src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/joss-and-me-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Wow.‬ Hey, speaking of which, can we dig into the beefcake buffet now and take about the Avengers themselves?</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> You should feel free to do so,‬ and I will watch.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> They were like the Spice Girls! There was Posh Spice (Iron Man), Sporty Spice (Captain America) &#8230;‬<br />
Um. Who were the other Spice Girls? Never mind, I&#8217;ll improvise: 2nd-Rate Brad Pitt Spice (Thor), Adorably Rumpled Intellectual Spice (Hulk, in his Dr. Bruce Banner guise)‬.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> I know who the other Spice Girls were but I am not going to say‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Not fair!‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Ginger Baby Scary. Just forget it leave me alone‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Hahahahahaha‬. Ginger Spice! That&#8217;s easy: Black Widow. And then Jeremy Renner is Baby-Faced Spice (Hawk). Or maybe poor <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0163988/">Agent Phil Colson</a>, previously known as Agent Casper from <em>The West Wing.</em> He&#8217;s just so convincing at wearing a suit and saying &#8220;Sir&#8221;!</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Yeah, the guy from <em>New Adventures of Old Christine</em> was great‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> It would have been amazing if they had broken into song. And very Whedon, since he loves his musicals.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> I put the odds at 50/50 that this was actually shot and it&#8217;s a feature on the blu-ray‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> I would pay for that!‬ Especially if it included a kick line. But okay. So. This movie has made unthinkable amounts of money. Here are some fun facts from <a href=" http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=avengers11.htm">Box Office Mojo.</a>  It is the #6 highest grossing movie ever ALREADY after less than three weeks.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Wow. &#8220;The 2nd-highest-grossing movie in which someone eats a banana ever!&#8221; Thanks Box Office Mojo.‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Yes, that site is a never-ending treasure trove.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> It&#8217;s true though. I want to reiterate: We saw this movie last night, after it had been out for TWO WEEKS, and we failed to get into TWO SEPARATE SCREENINGS.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Since we&#8217;re writing for a money site, I should say that I used these very special vouchers that I bought eight years ago for $5.50 and they let us into a 3D screening for only a $2 surcharge per voucher. So we saw this movie in 3D for only $7.50 each (plus the stress of dealing with the geniuses who work at movie theaters these days)‬. At that price, this movie was TOTALLY worth it. I would even have paid $12-$13. What about you?</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> I agree. I almost wish this came out a little later, becuase it&#8217;s so good at being a summer blockbuster‬. I made a joke last time about how we failed as Americans in not seeing this movie two weeks ago, and last night I definitely felt one with the all-American rite of the summer movie. Were you surprised at how much you liked it?‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Yes, it was so very all-American! And yes, I had very low expectations. I did laugh inappropriately at several points but I was honestly caught up in the story from the start.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> So, this might be obvious, but I think we should note that neither you nor I regularly go see movies like this‬. Like, I had a great time last night, but part of me also wonders whether we were just marveling at all the shiny turning gears. &#8220;Well shucks would you look at that!&#8221; This movie is definitely not universally loved by my Facebook friends, some of whom have posted things like &#8220;AVENGERS IS THE MOST OVERRATED MOVIE OF ALL TIME!!!!&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Eh.‬ Like I said, I only read middling / mixed reviews beforehand, so I wasn&#8217;t expecting much. But the story was not convoluted: It made sense (even though I can&#8217;t hear &#8220;tesseract&#8221; without thinking of <em>A Wrinkle in Time</em>); it had good characters and used them to advantage; the battle scenes were well-shot and clear; there was stuff at stake (the fate of earth!); and the script was funny.‬ I&#8217;m not sure what more can be asked from a movie like this. (Except that it didn&#8217;t pass the Ms. / <a href="http://bechdeltest.com/">Bechdel test</a>, which is too bad, but we will let it go this once, Joss Whedon, because of <em>Buffy</em>.)</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> I don&#8217;t even think our movie theater passed the Bechdel test, but whatever‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> There were at least three significant female characters, which was nice.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Three? Cobie Smulders, Scarlett Johanssen, who else?‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Pepper Potts!‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam</strong>: Oh right. Well there you go.‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Whose banter with Iron Man I enjoyed.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Yeah, she&#8217;s only in it early on, but it&#8217;s a good scene‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> I thought that was too bad, too, cuz I wanted more. But I&#8217;m glad they didn&#8217;t make her a hostage and have the Avengers / Iron Man save her, a la Spiderman.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> True—it&#8217;s worth noting that there&#8217;s no romantic clinch at the heart of this movie, which sounds stupid to say but is actually pretty significant‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> True!‬ Even Scar Jo doesn&#8217;t get laid. Though those looks she exchanges with Hawkeye are pretty expressive.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> You&#8217;re right, that may count as sex‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> In the 40s, anyway.‬ And this movie was kind of adorably retro. So wholesome!‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> They Learn To Work Together‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> There&#8217;s excellent chemistry among all the cast members, I should say, not just the two assassins.‬ Which makes it more fun to watch them Learn to Work Together (and also squabble, when they do squabble).</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Yeah. Even though I was never really into comic books as a kid, this movie really reactivated those childhood fantasy feelings of wishing that all my favorite cartoon and Nintendo characters would get together‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Hee!‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> I was definitely like &#8220;Thor and the Hulk are MEETING!! Eeeeee!!!&#8221; But wait a minute, I don&#8217;t actually care about Thor or the Hulk‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> It was confusing to me who was supposed to be strongest. You couldn&#8217;t just judge by musculature, which made it difficult!‬ Also I have a sneaking suspicion the hierarchy of strength of these Avengers wasn&#8217;t terribly well thought-out and adhered to.</p>
<p><a href="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/avengers1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4439" title="avengers1" src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/avengers1.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="340" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Haha. You definitely expressed some confusion about how Thor&#8217;s hammer worked. I explained that only Thor can pick it up! You were not convinced.‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> I just don&#8217;t understand! These other guys are very beefy.‬ Also, how does his hammer always return to his hand?</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> ESTER IT&#8217;S A MAGIC HAMMER.‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> So you&#8217;re saying it&#8217;s magnets?‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Thor comes from a magical world!!!‬ I can&#8217;t believe I am saying these things‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Don&#8217;t give me that shit. He comes from Scandinavia.‬ Although why he can&#8217;t wash his hair or speak using contractions &#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Thor comes from a magical world and so he is the only Avenger who is magic-based. The others were all created from science‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> OH SCIENCE‬.</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Please god don&#8217;t let any Billfold commenters know anything about comic books‬. ANYWAY. Maybe we should sum up.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Sure!‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Neither of us are huge superhero movie fans, but that did not lessen our enjoyment of this movie as a good summer action-y time‬. ON TOP OF THAT, it is funny and kind of smart.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> We laughed a lot! And the baby started kicking. I don&#8217;t know what that means exactly but I think it&#8217;s good.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Box Office Mojo does say that this is the most successful movie ever with fetuses‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> ahhahahahaha‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> So that makes total sense‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> <img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/YkS8RAv0xcXaK5_w14QjYoEfvmC8orb09qzesjebAXAJbo18W43J4Ss9f86exdp39IcaqP94NVAq2X-MNY5JK5J785dwBxGhWP1XDGje3SsXNFPJuv4" alt="" width="1px;" height="1px;" />‬All right, hot shot. So. How much do you think it was worth paying to see it</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Don&#8217;t do the 3D. Pay 12 bucks for this. And buy your ticket online, since this movie is still selling out for some reason‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> I agree. $12-$13 is totally sufficiently to pay to see this, but it will be worth your while.‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> O‬h wait!! We never talked about Ruffalo! Ruffalo is the best thing in this movie by miles.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> He is so very very good.‬ So adorably disheveled and trying to control himself. But if I were<br />
only going to do it with one Avenger, he would not be my choice. Jeremy Renner had weirdly strong sex appeal in this movie. I cannot explain why. Maybe even stronger than Robert Downey Jr&#8217;s.‬</p>
<p><a href="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/jeremy-renner.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-4443" title="jeremy renner" src="http://thebillfold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/jeremy-renner.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="314" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> Hm.‬</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Do you disagree or are you just waiting patiently for me to stop thinking along these lines?‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> No don&#8217;t worry about it, I think it&#8217;s very important that we establish who in this movie you&#8217;d most like to have sex with‬.</p>
<p><strong>Ester:</strong> Well I had so many more choices than you did!‬</p>
<p><strong>Adam:</strong> True. I definitely felt marginalized by this movie.‬</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong><em>CONSENSUS: You should pay $12-13 to see The Avengers.</em></strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Previously:</strong> <em><a href="http://thebillfold.com/2012/04/titanic-3d-leos-still-swoonworthy-but-is-it-worth-watching-again/">Titanic 3-D</a></em></p>
<p><em><a href="http://esterbloom.com/">Ester Bloom</a></em><em> appreciates that Adam doesn&#8217;t objectify any of the ladies, despite the tight leather costumes, whereas she&#8217;s buttering these guys up with her eyes. Follow her <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/shorterstory">@shorterstory</a></em></p>
<p><em>Adam Freelander would never name a file &#8220;joss and me.jpg.&#8221; Follow him <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/adamplease">@adamplease</a>.</em></p>

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