Comments on: Sunday’s Minimum Wage Discussion http://thebillfold.com/2013/02/sundays-minimum-wage-discussion/ Everything About Money You Were Too Polite To Ask Sat, 18 May 2013 11:45:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Hiroine Protagonist http://thebillfold.com/2013/02/sundays-minimum-wage-discussion/#comment-36717 Hiroine Protagonist Wed, 27 Feb 2013 04:05:15 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=24102#comment-36717 What, no comments about how lentils are cheap? Kudos. What, no comments about how lentils are cheap? Kudos.

]]> By: Sallymander http://thebillfold.com/2013/02/sundays-minimum-wage-discussion/#comment-36551 Sallymander Tue, 26 Feb 2013 03:28:21 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=24102#comment-36551 @stuffisthings Okay, I was getting ready to reply in earnest to what you're saying about wages and productivity, but after reading this thread, it's clear that no one here is interested in having a discussion about anything; you all are interested in attacking me personally. In a single thread I've been called racist, obnoxious, offensive, patronizing, nasty, and classist (am I missing anything?) simply for not swallowing whole the premise of this article, and even the more civil responses have been unbelievably arrogant. So go ahead, keep making quips about lattes while others pat you on the back for your brilliance. I'm checking myself out of The Billfold because what I thought was a cross-cultural personal finance blog is just another Internet clique. @stuffisthings Okay, I was getting ready to reply in earnest to what you’re saying about wages and productivity, but after reading this thread, it’s clear that no one here is interested in having a discussion about anything; you all are interested in attacking me personally. In a single thread I’ve been called racist, obnoxious, offensive, patronizing, nasty, and classist (am I missing anything?) simply for not swallowing whole the premise of this article, and even the more civil responses have been unbelievably arrogant.

So go ahead, keep making quips about lattes while others pat you on the back for your brilliance. I’m checking myself out of The Billfold because what I thought was a cross-cultural personal finance blog is just another Internet clique.

]]> By: Britta Sorensen@facebook http://thebillfold.com/2013/02/sundays-minimum-wage-discussion/#comment-36550 Britta Sorensen@facebook Tue, 26 Feb 2013 02:54:59 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=24102#comment-36550 @Sallymander Yes! Having children should not be a luxury reserved for the wealthy. The fight for reproductive rights includes the right to HAVE children and take care of them. @Sallymander Yes! Having children should not be a luxury reserved for the wealthy. The fight for reproductive rights includes the right to HAVE children and take care of them.

]]> By: chic noir http://thebillfold.com/2013/02/sundays-minimum-wage-discussion/#comment-36540 chic noir Tue, 26 Feb 2013 01:11:45 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=24102#comment-36540 @chic noir ^^^ All of that was to say that unless you are wealthy, having a child is becoming just another luxury product. Being married, over 25, debt free(student loan,medical or even credit) and having decent waged jobs with adequate health are just isn't possible for everyone right now. I really don't think two people wanting one child should be shamed. Besides, in many cultures children are a form of insurance esp for poor people. I have no problem paying more taxes for universal healthcare, preschool, nutritious school lunches, daycare etc... @chic noir ^^^ All of that was to say that unless you are wealthy, having a child is becoming just another luxury product. Being married, over 25, debt free(student loan,medical or even credit) and having decent waged jobs with adequate health are just isn’t possible for everyone right now. I really don’t think two people wanting one child should be shamed. Besides, in many cultures children are a form of insurance esp for poor people.

I have no problem paying more taxes for universal healthcare, preschool, nutritious school lunches, daycare etc…

]]> By: chic noir http://thebillfold.com/2013/02/sundays-minimum-wage-discussion/#comment-36539 chic noir Tue, 26 Feb 2013 01:05:55 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=24102#comment-36539 @Michelle wow 7 bucks a day is awesome. Here, a newborn can run you about 800 bucks per month. Then when you add in the mother's transportation,office clothes and out of pocket expenses, it really isn't a net gain for most women to work after having a child unless they are high earners or need the health insurance. To be honest with you guys, if you didn't already know, I'm Black(surprise:) and I'm from working class roots. I grew up in a neighborhood that was primary working class and some people needing government assistance. The bottom line is this, the young and even middle aged mothers who were able to do well almost always had a strong network of family support. Instead of paying a daycare center 500-800 to babysit, they had a retired relative or homemaker relative who would watch their kid for like 200 dollars sometimes free and maybe another relative living in house to help out.Then it was a LPN or RN program for 2-4 years for a certificate or degree that would deliver you str8 unto a job. @Michelle wow 7 bucks a day is awesome. Here, a newborn can run you about 800 bucks per month. Then when you add in the mother’s transportation,office clothes and out of pocket expenses, it really isn’t a net gain for most women to work after having a child unless they are high earners or need the health insurance.

To be honest with you guys, if you didn’t already know, I’m Black(surprise:) and I’m from working class roots. I grew up in a neighborhood that was primary working class and some people needing government assistance. The bottom line is this, the young and even middle aged mothers who were able to do well almost always had a strong network of family support. Instead of paying a daycare center 500-800 to babysit, they had a retired relative or homemaker relative who would watch their kid for like 200 dollars sometimes free and maybe another relative living in house to help out.Then it was a LPN or RN program for 2-4 years for a certificate or degree that would deliver you str8 unto a job.

]]> By: TDF@twitter http://thebillfold.com/2013/02/sundays-minimum-wage-discussion/#comment-36535 TDF@twitter Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:50:42 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=24102#comment-36535 @Megano! Are you serious? Labour hours have been slashed hugely since the minimum wage went up. It's increasingly difficult to find a 37.5h/workweek at McDonalds or Starbucks. Employers will schedule a 8 hour shift and send staff home after 3. Also the middle wage has stagnated, so people who were doing okay at $11 an hour in semi-skilled work in 2001 are still making $11 an hour and coping with increased rent, utilities, grocery bills, etc. @Megano! Are you serious? Labour hours have been slashed hugely since the minimum wage went up. It’s increasingly difficult to find a 37.5h/workweek at McDonalds or Starbucks. Employers will schedule a 8 hour shift and send staff home after 3.

Also the middle wage has stagnated, so people who were doing okay at $11 an hour in semi-skilled work in 2001 are still making $11 an hour and coping with increased rent, utilities, grocery bills, etc.

]]> By: chic noir http://thebillfold.com/2013/02/sundays-minimum-wage-discussion/#comment-36534 chic noir Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:39:32 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=24102#comment-36534 @Sallymander hey hey hey, as a "coloured", I ask that you please be respectful. @Sallymander hey hey hey, as a “coloured”, I ask that you please be respectful.

]]> By: megsy http://thebillfold.com/2013/02/sundays-minimum-wage-discussion/#comment-36525 megsy Mon, 25 Feb 2013 22:21:36 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=24102#comment-36525 @Megano! Canada is more expensive than the U.S. @Megano! Canada is more expensive than the U.S.

]]> By: megsy http://thebillfold.com/2013/02/sundays-minimum-wage-discussion/#comment-36524 megsy Mon, 25 Feb 2013 22:20:28 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=24102#comment-36524 @Michelle Quebec has $7 a daycare if you manage to luck out and get a spot... the waiting list for spots far exceeds what is actually available for families. @Michelle Quebec has $7 a daycare if you manage to luck out and get a spot… the waiting list for spots far exceeds what is actually available for families.

]]> By: stuffisthings http://thebillfold.com/2013/02/sundays-minimum-wage-discussion/#comment-36523 stuffisthings Mon, 25 Feb 2013 22:17:16 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=24102#comment-36523 @Nat They should also turn their heating down by 2 degrees and turn off the lights when they leave the room. @Nat They should also turn their heating down by 2 degrees and turn off the lights when they leave the room.

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