Comments on: Homers and Purple Squirrels http://thebillfold.com/2013/01/homers-and-purple-squirrels/ Everything About Money You Were Too Polite To Ask Fri, 24 May 2013 15:34:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: stuffisthings http://thebillfold.com/2013/01/homers-and-purple-squirrels/#comment-33261 stuffisthings Fri, 01 Feb 2013 16:33:07 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=22645#comment-33261 @Adriana 'Liz' Castro@facebook Thanks! @Adriana ‘Liz’ Castro@facebook Thanks!

]]> By: lhorntx http://thebillfold.com/2013/01/homers-and-purple-squirrels/#comment-33216 lhorntx Fri, 01 Feb 2013 13:51:44 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=22645#comment-33216 @Nucking Fux Nix If you've submitted an application via a job board or the company's job portal, is it frowned upon if you try to find the possible recruiter or manager who will likely oversee that position, and email them to ask about the status of the application and express you interest? Or is it just better to wait until a recruiter calls you? Lately I've heard that it's better to try to talk to someone who's directly involved with or somehow linked to the person in charge of the position. @Nucking Fux Nix If you’ve submitted an application via a job board or the company’s job portal, is it frowned upon if you try to find the possible recruiter or manager who will likely oversee that position, and email them to ask about the status of the application and express you interest? Or is it just better to wait until a recruiter calls you? Lately I’ve heard that it’s better to try to talk to someone who’s directly involved with or somehow linked to the person in charge of the position.

]]> By: Adriana 'Liz' Castro@facebook http://thebillfold.com/2013/01/homers-and-purple-squirrels/#comment-33205 Adriana 'Liz' Castro@facebook Fri, 01 Feb 2013 05:47:46 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=22645#comment-33205 @stuffisthings So, okay, I am a lay Catholic person, which means that I am not affiliated with a religious order. I was not sent to seminary via a parish, so there was never any investment of my church (as a whole) but there are people in my home church who are awesome and very supportive. Religious men and women (like, sisters, brothers, priests, nuns) are sent to seminary by their order, church, or diocese for specific formation. Often, they are already placed within a parish, school, or other ministry. Their job decisions are made in conjunction with their superiors. (This is as far as I know, not being a woman religious myself.) For lay students, it's a bit different. Some of us come from professional backgrounds and so do seminary and theological formation as an added thing to what we already do. A few of my fellow classmates had been teachers in parochial schools already, but decided to further their education. Once done with their degrees, they returned to teaching. Other people do this as preparation to a second career. Some of us come to seminary not really knowing what to expect but feeling called to it anyhow. Ministry work at parishes usually doesn't pay super well, but it pays just enough. It really depends on what sort of area you live, what the socioeconomic situation of your parish is, and if you are working solely for ministry or also for the church as a staff person. Some people don't even work at churches or schools - these people usually fall back on their previous skills and do something wonderful and completely different, like organizing, or working for non-profits. This comment has now gotten too long, but I hope that answers some of your questions. (oh, I don't know how it is for other denominations, but I have met a few UU ministers who are sponsored specifically by a church with the expectation that they are to return to their former position or something like it.) @stuffisthings So, okay, I am a lay Catholic person, which means that I am not affiliated with a religious order. I was not sent to seminary via a parish, so there was never any investment of my church (as a whole) but there are people in my home church who are awesome and very supportive. Religious men and women (like, sisters, brothers, priests, nuns) are sent to seminary by their order, church, or diocese for specific formation. Often, they are already placed within a parish, school, or other ministry. Their job decisions are made in conjunction with their superiors. (This is as far as I know, not being a woman religious myself.)
For lay students, it’s a bit different. Some of us come from professional backgrounds and so do seminary and theological formation as an added thing to what we already do. A few of my fellow classmates had been teachers in parochial schools already, but decided to further their education. Once done with their degrees, they returned to teaching. Other people do this as preparation to a second career. Some of us come to seminary not really knowing what to expect but feeling called to it anyhow.
Ministry work at parishes usually doesn’t pay super well, but it pays just enough. It really depends on what sort of area you live, what the socioeconomic situation of your parish is, and if you are working solely for ministry or also for the church as a staff person. Some people don’t even work at churches or schools – these people usually fall back on their previous skills and do something wonderful and completely different, like organizing, or working for non-profits.
This comment has now gotten too long, but I hope that answers some of your questions. (oh, I don’t know how it is for other denominations, but I have met a few UU ministers who are sponsored specifically by a church with the expectation that they are to return to their former position or something like it.)

]]> By: chic noir http://thebillfold.com/2013/01/homers-and-purple-squirrels/#comment-33175 chic noir Fri, 01 Feb 2013 00:59:02 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=22645#comment-33175 @Nucking Fux Nix *screams in a fit of superexcitement* So I see we have a Kresley Cole reader here. @Nucking Fux Nix
*screams in a fit of superexcitement*

So I see we have a Kresley Cole reader here.

]]> By: Nucking Fux Nix http://thebillfold.com/2013/01/homers-and-purple-squirrels/#comment-33140 Nucking Fux Nix Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:20:57 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=22645#comment-33140 Ok, I am a recruiter (agency) and there is definitely not a stigma about people who apply via a job posting from the boards, or whose resume we find on the boards. What I do wish is that people would only apply for jobs they are actually qualified for, but overall, I've had a lot of success placing people from the job boards. I work in technology though, so that might be part of it. I'd be happy to answer any job searching questions though. Ok, I am a recruiter (agency) and there is definitely not a stigma about people who apply via a job posting from the boards, or whose resume we find on the boards. What I do wish is that people would only apply for jobs they are actually qualified for, but overall, I’ve had a lot of success placing people from the job boards. I work in technology though, so that might be part of it. I’d be happy to answer any job searching questions though.

]]> By: stuffisthings http://thebillfold.com/2013/01/homers-and-purple-squirrels/#comment-33135 stuffisthings Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:07:41 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=22645#comment-33135 @Brunhilde HA! I saw this comment in my email and I thought it was it was just about this post in general, not this particular thread. @Brunhilde HA! I saw this comment in my email and I thought it was it was just about this post in general, not this particular thread.

]]> By: Adriana 'Liz' Castro@facebook http://thebillfold.com/2013/01/homers-and-purple-squirrels/#comment-33133 Adriana 'Liz' Castro@facebook Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:05:40 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=22645#comment-33133 Although it is possible to be placed within your existing parish, it doesn't normally work out that way. I would explain further but I am on the train right now and posting from my mobile is the worst. Although it is possible to be placed within your existing parish, it doesn’t normally work out that way. I would explain further but I am on the train right now and posting from my mobile is the worst.

]]> By: OhMarie http://thebillfold.com/2013/01/homers-and-purple-squirrels/#comment-33123 OhMarie Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:35:22 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=22645#comment-33123 @emilies I like to see something on monster or whatever and then see if I can find it on the company's actual website, and then apply there. Cutting out the middle man! @emilies I like to see something on monster or whatever and then see if I can find it on the company’s actual website, and then apply there. Cutting out the middle man!

]]> By: Brunhilde http://thebillfold.com/2013/01/homers-and-purple-squirrels/#comment-33064 Brunhilde Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:17:40 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=22645#comment-33064 @stuffisthings I think you basically have to submit your application to god in prayer form. @stuffisthings I think you basically have to submit your application to god in prayer form.

]]> By: deepomega http://thebillfold.com/2013/01/homers-and-purple-squirrels/#comment-33058 deepomega Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:08:49 +0000 http://thebillfold.com/?p=22645#comment-33058 @stuffisthings When I moved to LA, I cold-emailed about 70 companies. I heard back from 5. Three of the responses were "no," one was an offer of unpaid work, and the last turned into a job offer. I think maybe part of the issue here is that cold calling is a statistics game, and the statistics are HARROWING. @stuffisthings When I moved to LA, I cold-emailed about 70 companies. I heard back from 5. Three of the responses were “no,” one was an offer of unpaid work, and the last turned into a job offer. I think maybe part of the issue here is that cold calling is a statistics game, and the statistics are HARROWING.

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