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	<title>Comments on: Why the Swedes Move to Norway And Why I Tagged Along</title>
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		<title>By: Carl Dahlman@facebook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Dahlman@facebook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I grew up in Stockholm, decades ago, there was this joke.  Four Norwegians and one Swede were in a furious brawl, and after several hours of brave fighting, the Norwegians had finally managed to take the Swede&#039;s crutches away.  You get the flavor.  Or, when in a meeting of all the Scandinavian prime ministers in the 1960s, a (semi-serious) quarrel broke out between the Swedish and the Norwegian dudes as to whether Volvo was a Swedish or Norwegian car -- the Norwegian claim was that most of the parts were made in Norway, and only assembled in Sweden.  Those were the days.  Oil changes things.  I guess, if it weren&#039;t for Norway being in NATO, Sweden would invade and occupy, and tax.  That, after all, was the old Viking way, and the Norwegians would surely understand and accept that. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I grew up in Stockholm, decades ago, there was this joke.  Four Norwegians and one Swede were in a furious brawl, and after several hours of brave fighting, the Norwegians had finally managed to take the Swede&#8217;s crutches away.  You get the flavor.  Or, when in a meeting of all the Scandinavian prime ministers in the 1960s, a (semi-serious) quarrel broke out between the Swedish and the Norwegian dudes as to whether Volvo was a Swedish or Norwegian car &#8212; the Norwegian claim was that most of the parts were made in Norway, and only assembled in Sweden.  Those were the days.  Oil changes things.  I guess, if it weren&#8217;t for Norway being in NATO, Sweden would invade and occupy, and tax.  That, after all, was the old Viking way, and the Norwegians would surely understand and accept that.</p>
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		<title>By: kaaresvensson</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/12/why-the-swedes-move-to-norway-and-why-i-tagged-along/#comment-27794</link>
		<dc:creator>kaaresvensson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 01:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the author of this article is forgetting that during the entire union with Sweden during the 19th century, Norway was superior to Sweden in every big artform. You seem to be leaving that out when you blab about Stieg Larsson and cultural inferiority. That inferiority is only the case with the most recent and contemporary art. Historically speaking, Norway is the big brother there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the author of this article is forgetting that during the entire union with Sweden during the 19th century, Norway was superior to Sweden in every big artform. You seem to be leaving that out when you blab about Stieg Larsson and cultural inferiority. That inferiority is only the case with the most recent and contemporary art. Historically speaking, Norway is the big brother there.</p>
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		<title>By: Markham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michelle my girlfriend and I have some Swedish friends, they&#039;re all blond and medium height at most...

...okay, they&#039;re still gorgeous. 

They mentioned &quot;NOrway is rich now, we should&#039;ve stayed one country&quot; last time they visited us here in Seattle AKA the US Version of Scandinavia.

The rivalries remind me of the Caribbean Island rivalries, common culture but man do we talk trash about each other.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michelle my girlfriend and I have some Swedish friends, they&#8217;re all blond and medium height at most&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;okay, they&#8217;re still gorgeous. </p>
<p>They mentioned &#8220;NOrway is rich now, we should&#8217;ve stayed one country&#8221; last time they visited us here in Seattle AKA the US Version of Scandinavia.</p>
<p>The rivalries remind me of the Caribbean Island rivalries, common culture but man do we talk trash about each other.</p>
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		<title>By: josiahg</title>
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		<dc:creator>josiahg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Condescending Norwegian rap! That such a thing should exist in the world!</description>
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		<title>By: BiCuriousCommenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>BiCuriousCommenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CuriousCommenter, I created an account just to let you know what a petty diatribe looks like. 

Look, your hallowed trinity of &quot;Asians, Blacks and Jews&quot; are quite heterogenous and possess no single national-cultural identity. &quot;Asian&quot; could mean Korean, Chinese, etc. On the other hand, Norwegians are a very specific people with a strong national identity. 

If you described Americans as inventive and individualistic, I would say that&#039;s a damn fine descriptor, not &quot;racist&quot; and &quot;ethnic stereotyping&quot;. Wild and pedantic accusations from internet trolls have no business here. Keep the comments productive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CuriousCommenter, I created an account just to let you know what a petty diatribe looks like. </p>
<p>Look, your hallowed trinity of &#8220;Asians, Blacks and Jews&#8221; are quite heterogenous and possess no single national-cultural identity. &#8220;Asian&#8221; could mean Korean, Chinese, etc. On the other hand, Norwegians are a very specific people with a strong national identity. </p>
<p>If you described Americans as inventive and individualistic, I would say that&#8217;s a damn fine descriptor, not &#8220;racist&#8221; and &#8220;ethnic stereotyping&#8221;. Wild and pedantic accusations from internet trolls have no business here. Keep the comments productive.</p>
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		<title>By: CuriousCommenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>CuriousCommenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sheer amount of racial and ethnic stereotyping is truly disgusting. It&#039;s an never-ending well of filth that wells up.

You get the sense that some leftie humanities types, like yourself, truly overcompensate and lose their minds whenever they get a rare chance to actually entertain their soft bigotries and the gentle underbelly of racism.

Of course, sadly, the days of racial and ethnic stereotyping of Jews, Asians or blacks have since long been forbidden. But hey! Cheer up! There are still groups where it is okay, so let us totally bloat ourselves, for racism is fun! Hihi!

Again, you&#039;d never have the balls to entertain your soft bigotries on the black working class. And for good reason, because you know the shitstorm would be immense. But it it&#039;s okay for you to delve into the well of filth when it comes to those Scandinavians.

Hey! Let&#039;s serve up all kinds of ethnic stereotypes!

&quot;Scandinavians, awkward and bureaucratic people&quot;.

Really? Oh, okay. I know! Let&#039;s try this:
&quot;Jews, cheap and greedy people&quot;.

Woops. Didn&#039;t work so well, did it? Ethnic stereotyping you know. Essentialism.
Racism. Let&#039;s call it for what it is.

Or another:

&quot;Blacks, a violent but cheerful people with little organization&quot;.

You like that kind of all-sweeping ethnic stereotyping?

Hey! I know:

&quot;Asians, boring, asexual and materialistic high-achievers&quot;.

Oh, man, being like David J. Michael is so easy. I just pick an ethnic group and entertain my own racism and/or whatever ethnic stereotypes I&#039;ve heard.

See my point? Ethnic stereotyping is racism. So I&#039;m disgusted to see you immediately take the chance when you know(or rather, think) that you can actually get away with it.
What your ancestry is or is not doesn&#039;t concern me one iota. As if racism is &quot;okay&quot; if it&#039;s coming from someone partly of the same group.

I know the defenders of the &#039;harmless fun&#039; will rear their ugly heads any moment now, as all defenders of racism sound the same in the name of &quot;fun&quot;.

But these sleazy defenders would never be able to do it when it came to black/asian/Jewish ethnic stereotyping. Then, their calls for &quot;harmless fun&quot; would face the shitstorm their racism-apologizing spines wouldn&#039;t handle; and they&#039;d fold. In fact, they wouldn&#039;t even attempt the &quot;harmless fun&quot;, pro-racism excuse, because they know they are creamed and pay a deep price for it. 

But again, if you&#039;re not comfortable with the kind of sleazy ethnic stereotyping for blacks, Asians or Jews, then there&#039;s no reason why you should do it for other groups. But you do. And that, is where we have a problem. Because some of us don&#039;t have double standards for racism and ethnic stereotyping of the most disgusting kind. 

Because it raises the inevitable question, namely this: do you avoid ethnically stereotyping other racial groups not because you aren&#039;t a racist(which this piece is an indication of) but simply by the way you can get away with it? In other words, this piece raises the question if your natural draw to racist stereotypes, and acceptance and even promotion of them, solely rests on your ability to get away with it against &#039;safe&#039; groups.

Because then your &quot;anti-racism&quot; nothing but a thin veneer of social expediency, or the lack thereof.

I hope I don&#039;t get to read these kind of disgusting racist drabbles filled to the brim with racially tinged ethnic stereotyping.

Whether it&#039;s Jews, Asians, blacks or Scandinavians for that matter.
Keep your ethnic stereotyping to yourself. Actual non-racists, not those who crawl under the rock as soon as the social price is easy to pay, are disgusted.

Oh, and the pro-racism apologists of &#039;harmless fun&#039;, soak your head. You know you&#039;d never get away with it with any other group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sheer amount of racial and ethnic stereotyping is truly disgusting. It&#8217;s an never-ending well of filth that wells up.</p>
<p>You get the sense that some leftie humanities types, like yourself, truly overcompensate and lose their minds whenever they get a rare chance to actually entertain their soft bigotries and the gentle underbelly of racism.</p>
<p>Of course, sadly, the days of racial and ethnic stereotyping of Jews, Asians or blacks have since long been forbidden. But hey! Cheer up! There are still groups where it is okay, so let us totally bloat ourselves, for racism is fun! Hihi!</p>
<p>Again, you&#8217;d never have the balls to entertain your soft bigotries on the black working class. And for good reason, because you know the shitstorm would be immense. But it it&#8217;s okay for you to delve into the well of filth when it comes to those Scandinavians.</p>
<p>Hey! Let&#8217;s serve up all kinds of ethnic stereotypes!</p>
<p>&#8220;Scandinavians, awkward and bureaucratic people&#8221;.</p>
<p>Really? Oh, okay. I know! Let&#8217;s try this:<br />
&#8220;Jews, cheap and greedy people&#8221;.</p>
<p>Woops. Didn&#8217;t work so well, did it? Ethnic stereotyping you know. Essentialism.<br />
Racism. Let&#8217;s call it for what it is.</p>
<p>Or another:</p>
<p>&#8220;Blacks, a violent but cheerful people with little organization&#8221;.</p>
<p>You like that kind of all-sweeping ethnic stereotyping?</p>
<p>Hey! I know:</p>
<p>&#8220;Asians, boring, asexual and materialistic high-achievers&#8221;.</p>
<p>Oh, man, being like David J. Michael is so easy. I just pick an ethnic group and entertain my own racism and/or whatever ethnic stereotypes I&#8217;ve heard.</p>
<p>See my point? Ethnic stereotyping is racism. So I&#8217;m disgusted to see you immediately take the chance when you know(or rather, think) that you can actually get away with it.<br />
What your ancestry is or is not doesn&#8217;t concern me one iota. As if racism is &#8220;okay&#8221; if it&#8217;s coming from someone partly of the same group.</p>
<p>I know the defenders of the &#8216;harmless fun&#8217; will rear their ugly heads any moment now, as all defenders of racism sound the same in the name of &#8220;fun&#8221;.</p>
<p>But these sleazy defenders would never be able to do it when it came to black/asian/Jewish ethnic stereotyping. Then, their calls for &#8220;harmless fun&#8221; would face the shitstorm their racism-apologizing spines wouldn&#8217;t handle; and they&#8217;d fold. In fact, they wouldn&#8217;t even attempt the &#8220;harmless fun&#8221;, pro-racism excuse, because they know they are creamed and pay a deep price for it. </p>
<p>But again, if you&#8217;re not comfortable with the kind of sleazy ethnic stereotyping for blacks, Asians or Jews, then there&#8217;s no reason why you should do it for other groups. But you do. And that, is where we have a problem. Because some of us don&#8217;t have double standards for racism and ethnic stereotyping of the most disgusting kind. </p>
<p>Because it raises the inevitable question, namely this: do you avoid ethnically stereotyping other racial groups not because you aren&#8217;t a racist(which this piece is an indication of) but simply by the way you can get away with it? In other words, this piece raises the question if your natural draw to racist stereotypes, and acceptance and even promotion of them, solely rests on your ability to get away with it against &#8216;safe&#8217; groups.</p>
<p>Because then your &#8220;anti-racism&#8221; nothing but a thin veneer of social expediency, or the lack thereof.</p>
<p>I hope I don&#8217;t get to read these kind of disgusting racist drabbles filled to the brim with racially tinged ethnic stereotyping.</p>
<p>Whether it&#8217;s Jews, Asians, blacks or Scandinavians for that matter.<br />
Keep your ethnic stereotyping to yourself. Actual non-racists, not those who crawl under the rock as soon as the social price is easy to pay, are disgusted.</p>
<p>Oh, and the pro-racism apologists of &#8216;harmless fun&#8217;, soak your head. You know you&#8217;d never get away with it with any other group.</p>
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		<title>By: LHOOQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>LHOOQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this. BRB, moving to Norway to peel bananas.</description>
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		<title>By: bacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 23:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, Kitchen Stories, a great, great movie in which a Swedish time-and-motion man researches ergonomic improvements to the Norwegian kitchen.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddie DeBoer@facebook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddie DeBoer@facebook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must point out that Americans with an MA-- even in the humanities-- make significantly more in lifetime earnings and have a significantly lower unemployment rate than those with just a BA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must point out that Americans with an MA&#8211; even in the humanities&#8211; make significantly more in lifetime earnings and have a significantly lower unemployment rate than those with just a BA.</p>
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		<title>By: Secret name</title>
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		<dc:creator>Secret name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post, but the image should be about the greatest movie about a Swede stuck working in Norway: Stellan Skarsgard in (the original, un Chris Nolanized) Insomnia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post, but the image should be about the greatest movie about a Swede stuck working in Norway: Stellan Skarsgard in (the original, un Chris Nolanized) Insomnia.</p>
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