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	<title>Comments on: Who&#8217;s the Idiot Now? In My Family, We Play the Lottery to Win</title>
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		<title>By: Markham</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/12/whos-the-idiot-now-in-my-family-we-play-the-lottery-to-win/#comment-27752</link>
		<dc:creator>Markham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ThatJenn The delta is that you drink alcohol purely for enjoyment, and people play the lottery expecting not to lose or for those few times they don&#039;t. 

For the record, I don&#039;t drink :) 

I bought one lottery ticket in my life, I had been laid off, I was broke, friends on Facebook were traveling, so I said &quot;what the hell&quot; and gave it a try. 

I still feel like I wasted a dollar. 

But I&#039;m cheap. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ThatJenn The delta is that you drink alcohol purely for enjoyment, and people play the lottery expecting not to lose or for those few times they don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>For the record, I don&#8217;t drink :) </p>
<p>I bought one lottery ticket in my life, I had been laid off, I was broke, friends on Facebook were traveling, so I said &#8220;what the hell&#8221; and gave it a try. </p>
<p>I still feel like I wasted a dollar. </p>
<p>But I&#8217;m cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: Markham</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/12/whos-the-idiot-now-in-my-family-we-play-the-lottery-to-win/#comment-27751</link>
		<dc:creator>Markham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t &quot;win&quot; because once in a while you win money, you win if the amount you spend on tickets is LESS than the amount you win. 

If you spend $20/week on the lottery you spend $1,040/yr, if you win $3k every five years - you&#039;re still down $2k. 

SO you still lost. 

If you spend $30/week, then you spend $1,500/yr and over five years you spend $7,500, so even if you win $5k per five years, you&#039;re still down $2,500.

No one plays the lottery to win, you just lose. 

The math doesn&#039;t add up. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t &#8220;win&#8221; because once in a while you win money, you win if the amount you spend on tickets is LESS than the amount you win. </p>
<p>If you spend $20/week on the lottery you spend $1,040/yr, if you win $3k every five years &#8211; you&#8217;re still down $2k. </p>
<p>SO you still lost. </p>
<p>If you spend $30/week, then you spend $1,500/yr and over five years you spend $7,500, so even if you win $5k per five years, you&#8217;re still down $2,500.</p>
<p>No one plays the lottery to win, you just lose. </p>
<p>The math doesn&#8217;t add up.</p>
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		<title>By: deepomega</title>
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		<dc:creator>deepomega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@julebsorry Yeah. 30 dollars is... not trivial! Or sixty, if you don&#039;t win enough! And the worst part is, the more you play, the more you&#039;re gonna trend towards the statistically normative result (losing).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@julebsorry Yeah. 30 dollars is&#8230; not trivial! Or sixty, if you don&#8217;t win enough! And the worst part is, the more you play, the more you&#8217;re gonna trend towards the statistically normative result (losing).</p>
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		<title>By: Worker Parasite</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/12/whos-the-idiot-now-in-my-family-we-play-the-lottery-to-win/#comment-27450</link>
		<dc:creator>Worker Parasite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Megano! Well yeah, but I&#039;d rather someone be an honest jerk than be nice and encourage a gambling problem. Ideally one can be honest and nice, but that&#039;s a rare combination. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Megano! Well yeah, but I&#8217;d rather someone be an honest jerk than be nice and encourage a gambling problem. Ideally one can be honest and nice, but that&#8217;s a rare combination.</p>
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		<title>By: julebsorry</title>
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		<dc:creator>julebsorry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, I buy dollar scratch-offs because I figure that they definitely provide a dollar&#039;s worth of entertainment.  I never play to win, although I almost always win my dollar back, or a free &quot;Take 5&quot; play, and occasionally I win $5 to $10.  The fun of the anticipation of the BIG WIN seems worth a buck.  But $10?  C&#039;mon.  Buy three $10 cards, you&#039;ve spent $30.  Do you know how much fun I can have for $30?  Not enough to merit $30 worth of scratch-offs, for sure.  And if you&#039;re playing as an actual investment rather than just for fun...I think that&#039;s how you can potentially get yourself into trouble.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, I buy dollar scratch-offs because I figure that they definitely provide a dollar&#8217;s worth of entertainment.  I never play to win, although I almost always win my dollar back, or a free &#8220;Take 5&#8243; play, and occasionally I win $5 to $10.  The fun of the anticipation of the BIG WIN seems worth a buck.  But $10?  C&#8217;mon.  Buy three $10 cards, you&#8217;ve spent $30.  Do you know how much fun I can have for $30?  Not enough to merit $30 worth of scratch-offs, for sure.  And if you&#8217;re playing as an actual investment rather than just for fun&#8230;I think that&#8217;s how you can potentially get yourself into trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Megano!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megano!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ThatJenn In Ontario you can only buy alcohol from government-run stores, so</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ThatJenn In Ontario you can only buy alcohol from government-run stores, so</p>
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		<title>By: Megano!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megano!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Worker Parasite Not really the point. You&#039;re still a jackhole if you say that to an old lady.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Worker Parasite Not really the point. You&#8217;re still a jackhole if you say that to an old lady.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatJenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatJenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ThatJenn Hell, it beats drinking alcohol for ROI, I gotta say, and I&#039;m betting most people who would say the lotto is an idiot tax &quot;waste&quot; money on alcohol all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ThatJenn Hell, it beats drinking alcohol for ROI, I gotta say, and I&#8217;m betting most people who would say the lotto is an idiot tax &#8220;waste&#8221; money on alcohol all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatJenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatJenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve all got things we&#039;ve probably spent more money than we needed on that gave us joy without a demonstrable financial benefit (and assuming your family&#039;s broken even or been in the negative this counts). It just happens that your family&#039;s thing is the lottery, and it also just happens that gambling is a serious issue for some folks. If it&#039;s not for your family, and you all enjoy it, it&#039;s really no different from people &quot;wasting&quot; money on any other hobby with no financial return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve all got things we&#8217;ve probably spent more money than we needed on that gave us joy without a demonstrable financial benefit (and assuming your family&#8217;s broken even or been in the negative this counts). It just happens that your family&#8217;s thing is the lottery, and it also just happens that gambling is a serious issue for some folks. If it&#8217;s not for your family, and you all enjoy it, it&#8217;s really no different from people &#8220;wasting&#8221; money on any other hobby with no financial return.</p>
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		<title>By: Worker Parasite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Worker Parasite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Megano! Harsh, but true. It&#039;s a system designed to separate people from their money. My dad always called gambling &quot;a tax on the poor and stupid&quot; - which, while mean, rings true, especially after I spent a year as a dealer in a casino.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Megano! Harsh, but true. It&#8217;s a system designed to separate people from their money. My dad always called gambling &#8220;a tax on the poor and stupid&#8221; &#8211; which, while mean, rings true, especially after I spent a year as a dealer in a casino.</p>
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