I Feel Good About Pursuing This MBA
“I hope it pays off for you.”
That is the answer I usually get when people find out I’m getting my MBA. It’s usually followed by a look of bewilderment and awe, with a little bit of pity thrown in. I hear this after I tell people that I rot in traffic for an hour after working from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. to sit in a classroom for three hours two days a week. I hear this after I tell people that I have no time to be social because I spend my weekends doing homework.
In 2009, when the economy was at its lowest, I had an undergraduate degree and was lucky enough to have a job. But it wasn’t a good one, so I decided to go back to school. My parents and their friends encouraged my decision, but my coworkers and boss looked at me like I was the main event at a freak show when I talked about taking classes at night to get my MBA.
“Why would you want to do that?” they’d ask. “Good for you for having that motivation,” they’d say sarcastically.
I work in the hotel industry, where it’s not a requirement to have a graduate degree. It’s possible to get a promotion by just showing up every day. Most general managers at hotels don’t have graduate school on their resume, which may be why I’m getting constant pushback from my office. If I were in finance or accounting in another industry, I’m sure it would be much more common to have an MBA.
But as the economy is still sputtering, and tuition rises, I find that I’m getting more questions about the importance of an MBA. These are good questions, but the reality is that an undergraduate business degree doesn’t guarantee you a job that lets you afford standard living costs. I have a co-worker who works three cubes down from me who fed me the motivation to write this piece. He made me resent the reactions I’ve received in the last year while in school.
He peered up at me, and said smugly, “Well I’m sure you will be better off than the rest of us peons, especially since an MBA will automatically get you better pay.”
Ouch. After that, I hid in my cubicle and tried not to mention tests, homework, or what I was doing that weekend (studying) while I was at work.
Once I graduate, I probably will move on from this Office of Unhappiness, but even if I didn’t, I won’t regret getting my degree. I already have a job—I’m just looking for something better. Even with the debt I’m going to have, I have gained some valuable skills that I’ll be able to sell to future employers:
1. You will never scare me with the workload you throw at me.
I dare you to try. Because I remember working for 10 hours at a job, learning countless new programs and procedures, and then sitting in class at night for three hours. I’ll have experienced working 50 hours a week, then going home Friday evening and studying until midnight, and meeting on weekends to complete group projects. Did I mention I had absolutely no vacation time the first year? I know what it means to work hard, and I dare you to try and intimidate me with overtime and special projects.
2. My self-confidence has skyrocketed
I have complete confidence that I can figure out pretty much anything that arises at work. Now, I’m not talking about rocket science, but if I can figure out cost accounting at 2 a.m. wired on three cups of coffee, I’m pretty sure I can handle any managerial problem in the office, or a complicated Excel sheet (since I’ve discovered that most of my bosses can’t figure out Excel’s sum function). I’m not saying I will know every answer right away, or have the experience of 15 years on the job. But I have confidence in myself to come up with a logical solution that won’t peg me as a complete moron.
3. I am more comfortable with numbers than I have ever been
MBA classes are all about the numbers game, whether it’s accounting, finance, economics, or statistics. While I may not remember how to ace an advanced calculus class a year from now, I won’t go run for the hills when my boss emails me a financial report.
4. I will be able to speak in front of a crowd, and be able to bullshit what I don’t know.
Anyone who is in a graduate program knows that by the time they hold their degree, they’ll be able to give a 20-minute presentation to 50 people and bullshit half of it. It’s not because they don’t know the information, but because in the beginning of the MBA program, you get so nervous you forget half of what you were supposed to say. By the end of the program, you’re a wiz with a laser pointer and can answer any ridiculous question thrown my way from a witty student or cocky boss. I’m confident that I can stand in front of a crowd (or a board) and be comfortable enough not to pee my pantsuit.
MBA students, realize what you’re doing is worth it. You may not automatically get more money, but it will come. You may have given up your social life and many happy hours, but you’ll get them back when you’re done, and be able to eventually afford the steak sliders (even if it’s only because you took finance and know how to budget). In the future, you may get promoted, laid off, or fired, but no one will be able to take your degree away from you. While a job title is not forever, and your executive status may fade, the accomplishment of making it through your MBA program and knowing that it’ll open a few doors more doors for you will be worth it.
KJ Brooke lives in Southern California, and is in her last year of of business school where she is focusing on international business. She has been working in the hospitality industry for the last nine years, and will let you know when her MBA lands her a better job.











Hmmmm, really good article but I am a little surprised at this statement:”but the reality is that an undergraduate business degree doesn’t guarantee you a job that lets you afford standard living costs. ”
MBAs don’t guarantee this either. And I think #3 might be the only thing that you could only get from your MBA because the confidence and ability to speak in public (also falls under confidence) and the ability to carry a heavy workload can all come from other experiences that aren’t just from getting a MBA. With a lot of people getting MBAs, won’t the market be flooded with people who have these skills?
I do hope you can come back and tell us that you got a good job you want and enjoy with your MBA!
This is a really great counterpoint to the views that now is not the time to go get an MBA. I’ll be honest, I’ve always thought of an MBA as a $70K+ networking party. I didn’t really consider some of the less tangible skills that you would gain.
I would love to earn an MBA. As KJ mentioned, confident numeracy makes one stand out in the non-financial world, and the plethora of case studies and group projects simulate actual business way more than my lame-ass liberal arts degree (and even lamer research-based master’s) could.
Good luck KJ!
Good for you. I didn’t realize until after I got out of grad school how rare it was for someone to swallow the pride and go back. Also:
“MBA students, realize what you’re doing is worth it.”
I didn’t do an MBA (MS-Accounting for the CPA, so quite a bit of overlap), but I told myself this constantly through the 2.5 years. I also told myself “You better not fail or you’ll be working the third shift in a paint factory the rest of your life.” Fear’s a great motivator.
I would not overstate the value of bullshitting. Maybe it’s different in business? (I’m in law.) It is usually not that hard to figure out who knows what s/he’s talking about and who is faking it with good presentation skills, and listening to bullshitters is a waste of time. Which is to say, know your stuff! It sounds like you have this covered. Good luck!
I learnt #1, #2 and #4 from acting classes. I also consider that money well spent (cheaper than an MBA, but hey, there was no #3 included and I fear debt).
I hope you smash it – definitely let us know when this translates to a better job for you!
The single most valuable thing I learned in business school (and indeed, is supposed to be the point of the degree) is to see a business from a senior management point of view, which means I can speak to and connect with executives, which always results in a better career path.
I have so much to say about this!!
So I’m about 2 months into my MBA and it is the best decision I could have made for my career and my life. My undergrad was in journalism and even though I went to a really good program and I had two journalism jobs while in school and another 6-month (unpaid, of course) internship after I graduated (in 2009), I spent a year and a half applying for journalism jobs and got nowhere. Like ONCE I got a form rejection letter for a job I applied to and the other 50+ applications had no response whatsoever. Complete silence like I’d never sent them anything at all.
I felt really depressed about my future and I wanted to do something to get on a more successful, moneymaking path. The whole time I was job searching I was working a sort of customer servicey job making $8.00 an hour and living at home like a proper Millennial. I always felt like I know I’m smart, I know I work hard, I feel like I have strong skills from a good school, so why can’t I get a real job? Ugh, just thinking about it now still makes me really sad because I felt so terrible about myself and like such a failure and disappointment to myself and my family and basically everyone.
I think WHERE you choose to get your MBA is a huge factor for determining whether it’s a good investment. I choose my school based on ranking/reputation (assuming that correlated with later career success), and also on the percentage of graduates who had a job in their chosen field within 3 months. That second one was super important to me, so I did a lot of research about the career services departments at all the MBA programs and how they operated. I worked really hard on my GMAT and was so lucky to get into a well-known program with a job rate upwards of 95%. When each graduating class is only 100ish people, I felt I had a really good shot of the whole thing paying off.
Fortunately I also qualified for some scholarships and the in-state tuition, so I’m paying more like $40,000 in tuition for the two years, compared to $80,000+ which is standard for a lot of programs. So not spending a crazy amount + program with good reputation + reassuring rate of job placement = let’s get an MBA!
Now that I’m in this program, it is spectacular. It’s the hardest thing I’ve ever done, and I totally agree that I will never be afraid of any workload again because I’ve been through the absolute worst in this program. I also totally agree that I’ve learned so much about how an operation works from the top-down, and I would feel comfortable talking to any executives now that I speak the business language.
The numbers thing is also HUGE for me. I hadn’t taken a math class since high school before I started this program, so there was a huge learning curve at the beginning. But now that I’ve mastered some of these subjects, I feel so confident and so freakin’ smart! Some types of knowledge are easier to fake when you’re looking for jobs, like when I was applying for positions in marketing and PR and other such things journalism majors break down and do. But it’s harder to fake this quantitative knowledge, so I feel like this has been one of the biggest advantages I’ve personally gotten from my MBA and the diversity of skills really sets me apart.
I was extremely nervous about this decision as I was making it, especially the financial commitment, and had DEEP FEAR that I was going to get another degree and another $30k in debt and just end up back at an $8/hour job. But I don’t think that’s even possible anymore and I feel so much better about myself and my future and my abilities. Obviously not every person who pursues an MBA will end up ahead, but I really believe that I will. Since I started my program, I haven’t questioned it once, even when I was studying for a statistics test until 3 a.m. for the fifth night in a row.
I have stopped telling people I went back for my MBA because I’m sick of the smirks and snorts and snide asides I get in response. Bet I’d get a more positive response if I said I was going back for an MA in literature (HAHAHAHA). I have chosen the corporate path; therefore, I must speak the language, which is steeped in Finance, Accounting and Statistics. I did not learn this as an 18-22 year old fucking idiot college student who thought a BA in English would be super awesome. So the decision makes perfect sense to me; I am also baffled by the antagonism it is so often greeted with.
How great would a 5 year moratorium on MBA and law school applicants be?