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		<title>By: ciphressinchief</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/08/out-of-school-and-playing-house-two-ways/#comment-16444</link>
		<dc:creator>ciphressinchief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 07:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Logan Sachon Really (actually) not trying to be self-righteous.  Don&#039;t have an interesting story (supporting myself only cause I was lucky to get a medium- well-paid job after graduation)... but just wanting to hear from different situations for diversity!

A sudden realization that I may have come off as an asshole in the previous comment has prompted me to submit this almost a month later....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Logan Sachon Really (actually) not trying to be self-righteous.  Don&#8217;t have an interesting story (supporting myself only cause I was lucky to get a medium- well-paid job after graduation)&#8230; but just wanting to hear from different situations for diversity!</p>
<p>A sudden realization that I may have come off as an asshole in the previous comment has prompted me to submit this almost a month later&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: selenana</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/08/out-of-school-and-playing-house-two-ways/#comment-13930</link>
		<dc:creator>selenana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 01:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TARDIStime There&#039;s a cafeteria at work where lunch and I think dinner can be had. Other than that, it&#039;s restaurants and convenience store meals, which, to be fair, are quite good compared to what&#039;s on offer in the states. Also most of them can have a mini-fridge and a microwave, but no hot plate. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TARDIStime There&#8217;s a cafeteria at work where lunch and I think dinner can be had. Other than that, it&#8217;s restaurants and convenience store meals, which, to be fair, are quite good compared to what&#8217;s on offer in the states. Also most of them can have a mini-fridge and a microwave, but no hot plate.</p>
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		<title>By: TARDIStime</title>
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		<dc:creator>TARDIStime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@selenana 
Hang on a minute - did you say NO COOKING IN DORMS? What is that even?
How to people eat? Do they have to buy every meal from a restaurant or is there like a mess hall in the building or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@selenana<br />
Hang on a minute &#8211; did you say NO COOKING IN DORMS? What is that even?<br />
How to people eat? Do they have to buy every meal from a restaurant or is there like a mess hall in the building or something?</p>
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		<title>By: dotcommie</title>
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		<dc:creator>dotcommie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@gna207 yeah. i really appreciate the fact that living in chicago has allowed me to be independent without sacrificing the kind of cultural life i want. my parents live in a terrible place, so moving back home would be much more disruptive to me than these folks who live a LIRR ride away from NYC. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gna207 yeah. i really appreciate the fact that living in chicago has allowed me to be independent without sacrificing the kind of cultural life i want. my parents live in a terrible place, so moving back home would be much more disruptive to me than these folks who live a LIRR ride away from NYC.</p>
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		<title>By: dotcommie</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/08/out-of-school-and-playing-house-two-ways/#comment-13518</link>
		<dc:creator>dotcommie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@gna207 logan square is the shit, move here. but it&#039;s not really bushwick-y? i would say bridgeport is the bushwick of chicago--kinda shitty, kinda hip, inconveniently located. logan square has enough of an established cultural infrastructure that it&#039;s more like a closer-in brooklyn neighborhood, imho, like parts of williamsburg. stay away from most of lakeview/wrigleyville, it&#039;s pretty bro-y. i like the blue line scene a lot better.

and yes, chicago is the bomb (uofc ftw). alleys, cheap, global city, enormous lakefront open to the public...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gna207 logan square is the shit, move here. but it&#8217;s not really bushwick-y? i would say bridgeport is the bushwick of chicago&#8211;kinda shitty, kinda hip, inconveniently located. logan square has enough of an established cultural infrastructure that it&#8217;s more like a closer-in brooklyn neighborhood, imho, like parts of williamsburg. stay away from most of lakeview/wrigleyville, it&#8217;s pretty bro-y. i like the blue line scene a lot better.</p>
<p>and yes, chicago is the bomb (uofc ftw). alleys, cheap, global city, enormous lakefront open to the public&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Maladydee</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/08/out-of-school-and-playing-house-two-ways/#comment-13488</link>
		<dc:creator>Maladydee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The side of my family that I am on speaking terms with lives halfway across the country, 1.5 hours drive away from a major city. I don&#039;t know how to drive, so I actually can&#039;t move in with family, even if I wanted to. It&#039;s a major factor in why I haven&#039;t done any post-secondary yet. 

Anyone who feasibly can move home, and would find it helpful, probably should take advantage of it. Having to either pay rent or couch-surf has basically set me back by about 10 years or more in terms of getting a real career. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The side of my family that I am on speaking terms with lives halfway across the country, 1.5 hours drive away from a major city. I don&#8217;t know how to drive, so I actually can&#8217;t move in with family, even if I wanted to. It&#8217;s a major factor in why I haven&#8217;t done any post-secondary yet. </p>
<p>Anyone who feasibly can move home, and would find it helpful, probably should take advantage of it. Having to either pay rent or couch-surf has basically set me back by about 10 years or more in terms of getting a real career.</p>
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		<title>By: seaermine</title>
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		<dc:creator>seaermine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@readyornot That&#039;s very true, I didn&#039;t think of it at first but there are definitely some NYC specific industries (or industries that are not NYC specific but where being in NYC gives you an edge) where one would want to maybe miss out on all the opportunities that the city itself has to offer to try and find professional sucess (which will hopefully lead to being able to take all those opportunities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@readyornot That&#8217;s very true, I didn&#8217;t think of it at first but there are definitely some NYC specific industries (or industries that are not NYC specific but where being in NYC gives you an edge) where one would want to maybe miss out on all the opportunities that the city itself has to offer to try and find professional sucess (which will hopefully lead to being able to take all those opportunities.</p>
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		<title>By: cliuless</title>
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		<dc:creator>cliuless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 05:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Megano! did you mean to post this in the subway post?

but basically, the garbage train in new york passes through each station late at night and collects the garbage that has accumulated throughout the day. it&#039;s just a train of flatbeds holding open dumpsters filled with black garbage bags, and it&#039;s the most disappointing thing to see late at night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Megano! did you mean to post this in the subway post?</p>
<p>but basically, the garbage train in new york passes through each station late at night and collects the garbage that has accumulated throughout the day. it&#8217;s just a train of flatbeds holding open dumpsters filled with black garbage bags, and it&#8217;s the most disappointing thing to see late at night.</p>
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		<title>By: selenana</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/08/out-of-school-and-playing-house-two-ways/#comment-13445</link>
		<dc:creator>selenana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 02:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@readyornot In Japan too, it&#039;s very common for people to live with their parents until marriage. And did we basically invent the love hotel? (Maybe not, but it seems like it!) Lots of people who move out because of work just move into company dorms, which is the culture but seems infantilizing sometimes to me (especially when they have rules like no guests, no cooking in your room). That&#039;s just to say, I think that USA culture is one of the few that expects that you will not live at home after age 18, and I think living with your parents doesn&#039;t automatically mean you&#039;re not a functioning adult. But maybe getting a job, not having your mom wake you up and make you breakfast for that job, and helping with bills/chores could be things that mark adulthood instead. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@readyornot In Japan too, it&#8217;s very common for people to live with their parents until marriage. And did we basically invent the love hotel? (Maybe not, but it seems like it!) Lots of people who move out because of work just move into company dorms, which is the culture but seems infantilizing sometimes to me (especially when they have rules like no guests, no cooking in your room). That&#8217;s just to say, I think that USA culture is one of the few that expects that you will not live at home after age 18, and I think living with your parents doesn&#8217;t automatically mean you&#8217;re not a functioning adult. But maybe getting a job, not having your mom wake you up and make you breakfast for that job, and helping with bills/chores could be things that mark adulthood instead.</p>
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		<title>By: selenana</title>
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		<dc:creator>selenana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 02:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ciphressinchief I feel that way sometimes too. I have lived with my parents intermittently since high school (mostly right after graduating and for a short spell during college when my dad lived in the same city as my school) but other than that, they have never paid my rent. They didn&#039;t support me through college - loans, grants, and having a job did that. I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any shame at all in having your parents help you if that&#039;s an option, but I would also like to read more stories of people who are a little less privileged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ciphressinchief I feel that way sometimes too. I have lived with my parents intermittently since high school (mostly right after graduating and for a short spell during college when my dad lived in the same city as my school) but other than that, they have never paid my rent. They didn&#8217;t support me through college &#8211; loans, grants, and having a job did that. I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any shame at all in having your parents help you if that&#8217;s an option, but I would also like to read more stories of people who are a little less privileged.</p>
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