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		<title>By: omgkitties</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/06/letting-people-go/#comment-5316</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AnnieNilsson I&#039;m picturing him dancing his way out the door, full on boogie-ing, and it is fantastic. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AnnieNilsson I&#8217;m picturing him dancing his way out the door, full on boogie-ing, and it is fantastic.</p>
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		<title>By: AnnieNilsson</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/06/letting-people-go/#comment-5307</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnieNilsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is silly, but, a friend of mine was working at a pizza place, and had been butting heads with the manager. One day the manager called him over to a corner of the store to say that he was considering letting him go. As he was halfway through his prepared speech, that song &quot;Take This Job and Shove it&quot; came on the radio through the speakers. My friend just sort of grinned, took off his apron and walked out the front door. Even the manager had to laugh about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is silly, but, a friend of mine was working at a pizza place, and had been butting heads with the manager. One day the manager called him over to a corner of the store to say that he was considering letting him go. As he was halfway through his prepared speech, that song &#8220;Take This Job and Shove it&#8221; came on the radio through the speakers. My friend just sort of grinned, took off his apron and walked out the front door. Even the manager had to laugh about it.</p>
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		<title>By: redheaded&crazy</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/06/letting-people-go/#comment-5299</link>
		<dc:creator>redheaded&crazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 18:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@elizabeast Damn how would you even handle that situation though?! Holiday dinner ... &quot;No there aren&#039;t going to be layoffs.&quot; or &quot;Yes there might be some layoffs.&quot; One is a lie, one is harsh and terrifying as hell right before the holidays! I mean, I&#039;m an advocate for owning the cold hard truth but I probably would have lied without thinking on that one. Maybe it would have been nice to send a correctional email or something &quot;I know I said x, because I was caught off-guard, but actually y.&quot; 

Ahhhhh a week&#039;s severance now that is harsh as hell! :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@elizabeast Damn how would you even handle that situation though?! Holiday dinner &#8230; &#8220;No there aren&#8217;t going to be layoffs.&#8221; or &#8220;Yes there might be some layoffs.&#8221; One is a lie, one is harsh and terrifying as hell right before the holidays! I mean, I&#8217;m an advocate for owning the cold hard truth but I probably would have lied without thinking on that one. Maybe it would have been nice to send a correctional email or something &#8220;I know I said x, because I was caught off-guard, but actually y.&#8221; </p>
<p>Ahhhhh a week&#8217;s severance now that is harsh as hell! :(</p>
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		<title>By: e</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/06/letting-people-go/#comment-5291</link>
		<dc:creator>e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 18:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked for a small bookstore that also ran campus bookstores. The company was a family owned successful place until the owner got it into his head that he should keep expanding. Built a huge new store way out on the highway and rapidly starting running out of cash. I worked at one of the campus stores and they had brought in new management only a few months back. They had us work around the clock during finals week, running the book buy-back program and shipping out all the books (carrying huge 100 pound boxes of textbooks) then they had the new manager lay off everyone but the assistant manager. The assistant manager had to lay off his fiance, and he couldn&#039;t even quit in protest because then they would have zero income. It was awful, we all cried. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for a small bookstore that also ran campus bookstores. The company was a family owned successful place until the owner got it into his head that he should keep expanding. Built a huge new store way out on the highway and rapidly starting running out of cash. I worked at one of the campus stores and they had brought in new management only a few months back. They had us work around the clock during finals week, running the book buy-back program and shipping out all the books (carrying huge 100 pound boxes of textbooks) then they had the new manager lay off everyone but the assistant manager. The assistant manager had to lay off his fiance, and he couldn&#8217;t even quit in protest because then they would have zero income. It was awful, we all cried.</p>
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		<title>By: elizabeast</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/06/letting-people-go/#comment-5279</link>
		<dc:creator>elizabeast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 18:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one and only time I have been laid off was maybe one of the worst ways one could be laid off.

In 2008, I was working at a small, shop that sells craft supplies managing their online store AND working the floor, and I had been there for about three years. The owner took the staff out for our annual holiday dinner and just as our holiday bonuses were being handed out one of my more nervous coworkers asked if there were going to be any layoffs. The owner insisted he wasn&#039;t laying anyone off and he wouldn&#039;t be cutting any hours.

On January 2 the owner called me to tell me he had to let me go. I had a ton of sample work I was working on at home for extra money that I would not be paid for. My severance was a week&#039;s pay which he thought was generous, but I thought was ridiculous given that I was being laid off with no warning.

I still love the shop, and some of the employees are very close friends...but I&#039;m also still annoyed I was laid off after being assured there would be no layoffs. C&#039;est la vie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one and only time I have been laid off was maybe one of the worst ways one could be laid off.</p>
<p>In 2008, I was working at a small, shop that sells craft supplies managing their online store AND working the floor, and I had been there for about three years. The owner took the staff out for our annual holiday dinner and just as our holiday bonuses were being handed out one of my more nervous coworkers asked if there were going to be any layoffs. The owner insisted he wasn&#8217;t laying anyone off and he wouldn&#8217;t be cutting any hours.</p>
<p>On January 2 the owner called me to tell me he had to let me go. I had a ton of sample work I was working on at home for extra money that I would not be paid for. My severance was a week&#8217;s pay which he thought was generous, but I thought was ridiculous given that I was being laid off with no warning.</p>
<p>I still love the shop, and some of the employees are very close friends&#8230;but I&#8217;m also still annoyed I was laid off after being assured there would be no layoffs. C&#8217;est la vie.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Tchotchke</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/06/letting-people-go/#comment-5276</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Tchotchke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worst is firing under false pretenses. If you can&#039;t afford someone&#039;s labor, do the honorable thing and make that clearly and officially the reason. I absolutely cannot stand companies that suddenly latch onto a mistake that would never otherwise have been a fireable offense just so they can try to deny unemployment. It&#039;s like the ball-kickiest thing you can do to an employee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst is firing under false pretenses. If you can&#8217;t afford someone&#8217;s labor, do the honorable thing and make that clearly and officially the reason. I absolutely cannot stand companies that suddenly latch onto a mistake that would never otherwise have been a fireable offense just so they can try to deny unemployment. It&#8217;s like the ball-kickiest thing you can do to an employee.</p>
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		<title>By: NoReally</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/06/letting-people-go/#comment-5275</link>
		<dc:creator>NoReally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@NoReally Wasn&#039;t qualified. Was unqualified.</description>
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		<title>By: NoReally</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/06/letting-people-go/#comment-5274</link>
		<dc:creator>NoReally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh god. My juicebox ex-manager hired a woman who wasn&#039;t unqualified. No one had any idea why. He said he&#039;s train her. After a couple of weeks he decided he wouldn&#039;t, and canned her, basically saying the job description had changed (so dumb, such a dick, this guy). She was completely shocked, and just, exploded. Yelled. Raged. And then savaged him (though not by name) on her blog, which I think she&#039;d mentioned, but not actually directed anyone to. Though once one person had found it, of course everyone was there. Later I heard she&#039;d been rejected for another job at a related company because they&#039;d heard the story. Which was too bad, because she really had been provoked. 

Maybe it was worth it. He was totally humiliated by the blog bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh god. My juicebox ex-manager hired a woman who wasn&#8217;t unqualified. No one had any idea why. He said he&#8217;s train her. After a couple of weeks he decided he wouldn&#8217;t, and canned her, basically saying the job description had changed (so dumb, such a dick, this guy). She was completely shocked, and just, exploded. Yelled. Raged. And then savaged him (though not by name) on her blog, which I think she&#8217;d mentioned, but not actually directed anyone to. Though once one person had found it, of course everyone was there. Later I heard she&#8217;d been rejected for another job at a related company because they&#8217;d heard the story. Which was too bad, because she really had been provoked. </p>
<p>Maybe it was worth it. He was totally humiliated by the blog bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Norrey</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/06/letting-people-go/#comment-5268</link>
		<dc:creator>Norrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked as a residence hall director for a few years and had to fire some people - and it always sucked.  They were all young students who had made stupid mistakes, and I always told myself it was a learning moment for them, but I almost always cried when I got home on those days.  I have a lot of respect for people who have to give bad news to others on a regular basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked as a residence hall director for a few years and had to fire some people &#8211; and it always sucked.  They were all young students who had made stupid mistakes, and I always told myself it was a learning moment for them, but I almost always cried when I got home on those days.  I have a lot of respect for people who have to give bad news to others on a regular basis.</p>
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		<title>By: EvelynGarcia</title>
		<link>http://thebillfold.com/2012/06/letting-people-go/#comment-5262</link>
		<dc:creator>EvelynGarcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I&#039;ve fantasized about it plenty, in the moment I&#039;ve never come up with a &quot;f-you exit&quot; that didn&#039;t just make ME seem petty and small.

Also, the world is small. The human scum that owned the restaurant where I worked in college became a client of the microfinance nonprofit where I had my first &quot;real&quot; job. I was glad to be able to be coolly cordial with him years later. Because I had initially planned to ohhh I don&#039;t know, set his car on fire?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I&#8217;ve fantasized about it plenty, in the moment I&#8217;ve never come up with a &#8220;f-you exit&#8221; that didn&#8217;t just make ME seem petty and small.</p>
<p>Also, the world is small. The human scum that owned the restaurant where I worked in college became a client of the microfinance nonprofit where I had my first &#8220;real&#8221; job. I was glad to be able to be coolly cordial with him years later. Because I had initially planned to ohhh I don&#8217;t know, set his car on fire?</p>
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