How Much You Should Pay to See: ‘The Five-Year Engagement’

Adam: Hello!

Ester: Oh yes! Hi!

Adam: So I think we should address the fact that we did not see The Avengers.

Ester: Yes! Let’s start there. We are apparently the only people in America who did NOT see The Avengers this weekend.

Adam: Part of me feels like we did a bad thing, not seeing it. Just as Americans.

Ester: Oh, absolutely. Not to mention as loyal writers for Mike Dang, who so politely expressed his surprise at our choice. He was very gentle about it, like the sitcom father who isn’t angry at you, per se, but maybe just a little disappointed.

But when I asked him to be the authoritative father figure and command us to see The Avengers, he demurred! No, no, no, he said—whatever you want!

Adam: Mike! We both want so badly to do right by you!

Ester: Now the question is, did we profit by our choice? Would we have done better to do what Daddy Mike wanted and see The Avengers? (Even if he refused to say outright that it WAS what he wanted.)

Adam: I actually think we did good. I think I am surprised more people haven’t gone to see the movie we saw.

Ester: I think we did good too. I mean, what can you ask for from a theatrical experience, really? We laughed. I cried.

Adam: I should note that it has done very, very badly at the box office.

Ester: Sank like a stone.

Like a Titanic stone, even 

Adam: When people have talked about “counterprogramming” for the big summer movies, they’ve been talking a lot about Think Like a Man and that old people movie coming out. And this strikes me as, at the very least, a movie more people should be talking about.

Ester: It’s funny, because Five-Year Engagement is so very different from The Avengers. For one, it’s realistic—so realistic, in fact, that it’s based on a true story. Unfortunately realistic also means kind of complicated, and I understand how people could be put off by that

Adam: One thing I said to you when we were walking to the subway was that I don’t think I know anyone who would see this movie and WOULDN’T feel like it hit really close to home. Which may say more about where we are in our lives, but.

Ester: Yes, that is very true. It is about people who are around 30, who are trying to decide what to prioritize in their lives: work, love, family…

Adam: I was a little impressed with how it is a movie about REAL DECISIONS.

Ester: Very much so. And money! Although that’s sort of subtextual.

Adam: Well, it may be sort of a rorschach in that sense.

Ester: Like, the characters are not just magazine editors or architects, like most rom-com characters. They have to make a living, both of them, which is partly why they have Ambitions, and that leads to the Drama.

(Movie architects are the best. I have seen so many movies featuring Architects and I still have no idea what an architect actually does, day-to-day.)

Adam: Haha, it’s true that there are no architects in this movie, a major departure for the genre.

Ester: It is such a vague, sexy-seeming profession! Instead we have Restaurant Chef and Academic. Which feels, again, realistic. As the movie begins, the Chef is happily employed in San Francisco, and the Academic is trying to get a job at Berkeley. She does not get the job! So she has to move to Michigan for a Post-Doc. (Can you even remember the last time anyone said the words “Post-Doc” in a mainstream movie?) They are both dealing with the constraints of a recession and a poor economy.

Adam: And also like, trying to be good to each other. A lot of the conflict in this movie arises from how hard it is for the two of them to do right by each other.

I feel like usually in movies, relationship problems arise from stupid misunderstandings. She saw the guy hugging his sister and now she thinks he’s cheating on her!!!

Ester: Right, exactly. Whereas here, they are each weighing their responsibilities to each other and to themselves. Is it okay to be selfish in a relationship? How selfish? For how long? etc.

Adam: I mean, I don’t want to belabor the point, and I also don’t mean to sound like I’ve never seen a movie, but I was really struck by how many people in my own life this movie made me think of.

Ester: Would you like to get more specific?

Gossip is fun! And we could blank out the names.

Adam: Oh, I just meant my friends Trudy Campbell and Kelly Kapoor.

Ester: Oh yes, of course. Maybe part of the reason this movie affected me (again: I cried for about fifteen minutes in the middle of it, and I’m not sure how much I can blame stupid pregnancy hormones, since I did NOT cry during “Titanic”) is that it seemed like all the actors in this film could probably relate to the subject matter more than usual.

Adam: Oh interesting! I think you are probably right. But also, and this doesn’t spoil too much, but there are two characters who start off the movie as sort of fuckups, and then end up being the mature family examples. They sort of “age past” the main characters. I related to that a lot, or to that fear I guess.

Ester: They are definitely more “successful,” by mainstream standards, and that’s not how I assumed their arc would go. Which fear did you relate to, though?

Adam: The fear of like, while you are trying to figure out your own life, the loveable fuckup sidekicks in your life are going to figure it all out and just do it better. In another movie, that’d be played for laughs. “The old goofball found a wife!!!!”

Ester: Ha! It is always an interesting question: Are you someone else’s loveable fuckup sidekick? Would you know if you were? We all like to think we’re the protagonists in our own stories …

Adam: Yeah, I definitely like to pretend differently, but I surely am all my friends’ loveable fuckup sidekick. And I resent being held to the standards of the sidekicks in this movie!!!!

But you see what’s going on here. This movie made me FEEL FEELINGS. And you too, for “fifteen minutes in the middle” (though actually more).

Ester: How do you know?? I was crying very very quietly. Yes, this is the kind of movie that makes you feel your feelings. Before we address how much that experience is worth though, I would like to address two complaints:

1) That it was basically like watching a season’s worth of a sitcom crammed into one movie — i.e., it was episodic, kind of strangely paced, and long for a comedy. 2) Every ethnic character was a terrible stereotype. This movie was a like a cautionary tale about trying to inject diversity into films!

Adam: OK, #2 first. The graduate study group is a little ill-conceived, I agree. I was particularly sad seeing Randall Park, a really funny guy, play an accented character named “Ming.”

Ester: Who is supposed to be really talented & bright! But all we see him do is a crazy-ass experiment involving blood and chicken feathers. And the black guy is singularly obsessed with masturbation (??).

Mindy Kaling is Mindy Kaling. Fun, but perhaps not entirely believable as a PhD.

Adam: Mindy Kaling is Mindy Kaling, which is technically not an ethnic stereotype, though I’m concerned it soon will be.

Ester: The lesbian chef was funny, at least. But overall, this movie was like the opposite of “Girls”—diversity up the wazoo, even in the snowy backwoods of Michigan—and yet it was done so badly I wished everyone had been white.

Adam: “I wished everyone had been white.” – Ester Bloom, cultural critic

Ester: Hey, people would be a lot less hard on the Merchant of Venice if Shylock had just been another British Protestant dude.

Adam: We keep bringing it back to Jews! Jason Siegel’s character in this movie is apparently Jewish. I always thought he was the Apatow guy who ISN’T coded as Jewish.

I do not know why I thought that.

Ester: Well, here his last name was Solomon. He made a cute Jew. He made a cute everything, actually—I really liked him here. Emily Blunt was good too! I believed in them as a couple. That does not happen that often. That is worth a couple of dollars, at least.

Adam: Definitely the first time I really liked Emily Blunt. Who, I just learned from Wikipedia, is 8 days younger than I am.

Ester: She was so good in Devil Wears Prada! What are you talking about?

Adam: She’s great but I didn’t LIKE her!

Ester: OK WHATEVER. Holy shit, she’s married to John Krasinski. They are going to have such cute funny babies.

Adam: Yeah ok whatever, you felt sympathetic towards the most evil character in that movie, good job.

Ester: I have empathy. It’s what separates me from the psychopaths.

Adam: Anyway about your “episodic” complaint, you are right. I read the New Yorker review you mentioned, and he compares this to Funny People, which is right on.

Ester: So yes, let us get to it: Largely we liked this movie, though we agree that it used ethnic characters in a troubling way and was kind of bumbling and episodic, even if in an endearing way. It made Adam scared and reflective about his life choices, and it made Ester cry for a while.

How much was it worth overall? We paid $7 per ticket.

Adam: Yeah, which I still can’t believe. This column is rapidly turning into an advertisement for Cobble Hill Cinemas, but SERIOUSLY.

Ester: Seriously. If you are in Brooklyn, you should never see a movie anyplace else. Even if you’re in New Jersey, you should drive into Brooklyn, because the theater is so comfy, cozy, adorable, retro, and cheap. Audiences are even well-behaved. No texting; no talking. A hilarious movie theater intro reminds us (to a score of electronic music) to turn off our beepers.

Adam: I will say that this movie is worth a full-price ticket. So, $28.

Or $12, whatever.

Ester: I would say it was worth $7 or $8 for sure, but I wouldn’t go above $10.

Adam: I am down with this movie. I think it tries to tackle serious things and it doesn’t always succeed but sometimes it does, and it’s really funny and extremely sweet.

“This movie has something for everyone!! (who is 29.)”

Ester: That is an important point.

OK, I’ll say $10. It gets a dollar bonus for the scene where Alison Brie and Emily Blunt fight using voices from “Sesame Street” (Brie is Elmo, Blunt is Cookie Monster). And another for its ambition.

Adam: And we should encourage that! I hope this movie’s financial failure doesn’t cause Nicholas Stoller to make a fart movie next.

Ester: Here here!

Or is it “Hear hear”? I’ve never been sure.

Adam: There’s literally no way of knowing.

Ester: And on that note, thanks, Adam! This was fun. Next time we’ll see The Avengers, because we don’t want to make Daddy Mike cry.

CONSENSUS: You should pay between $10 and $12 to see “The Five-Year Engagement”. Maybe add another dollar if you are exactly 29 years old?

 

Previously: Titanic 3-D

Ester Bloom was engaged for a year and three months, and that was enough. Follow her @shorterstory

Adam Freelander is not 100% on board with this “Daddy Mike” thing, though not for lack of respect for Mike. It just feels a little “Tobias Fünke” for his taste. Follow him @adamplease.

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21 Comments / Post A Comment

Mike Dang (#2)

I just wanted to add that I am also probably all my friends’ lovable sidekick in the movie version of their lives — albeit one that’s not a mess. The responsible sidekick! And I am glad you guys saw this movie, and I am making you both go see that Snow White movie with Kristen Stewart and Charlize Theron.

@Mike Dang BUT WHAT ABOUT THE ONE WITH JULIA ROBERTS AND THAT OTHER GIRL?

Megano! (#124)

@Logan Sachon That one is Old News now!

egarcia (#782)

As a midwesterner, I feel obligated to point out that “snowy, backwoods” Michigan has a substantial middle eastern population and also any R1 school (like, presumably U of M, though I didn’t see the film to confirm that’s where she went) is going to have foreign/diverse students represented in graduate school.

Obviously, clunky handling of race is lame in any state, though.

@egarcia Totally fair point. I was being tongue-in-cheek, because the movie treats Ann Arbor like it’s a place where you could more easily lose a toe to frostbite than find a decent restaurant for dinner.

rambutan (#796)

@Ester Bloom@facebook I registered for an account just to respond to your incredibly saddening response to the stereotypes. The answer isn’t to make everyone in the movie white, it’s to write better minority characters! I’m not blaming you alone because your thoughts are pretty much the standard, it seems (look at all the people who said that Girls HAD to be all-white to avoid tokenism, as though it’s genuinely a dichotomy between white-and-believable and brown-and-offensive).
Anyway, I could tell even when The Hairpin posted the trailer that the movie wasn’t going to be a paragon of racial sensitivity. See: http://thehairpin.com/2011/12/the-five-year-engagement-trailer-the-last-pick-on-the-wedding-comedy-dodgeball-team/#comment-160871

@Ester Bloom@facebook I hated all the Michigan stereotypes. It barely snowed at all this winter, for example. And not all Ann Arbor dudes have atrocious beards. (Promise.)

neener (#242)

Instead we have Restaurant Chef and Academic. Which feels, again, realistic.

is this realistic?! i mean, i guess i know of people who are in grad school and culinary school. but i have very doom-ish feelings about their job prospects, and i think they do too. this makes me think of that explosion of media coverage about OWS protestors who had masters degrees in indonesian puppetry and were complaining about not having jobs. (conservative commentators: what did you expect!? me: i am more sympathetic, but really, what did you expect?!) maybe we need to re-calibrate our sense of what jobs are real. what percentage of phd students even at top programs get tenure-track positions in big city schools? like, let’s make a rom com about an actuary and a HR lady or something.

(admittedly chef and academic are definitely real-er jobs than being an architect, and it is nice that they acknowledge how hard it is to get a job at BERKELEY.)

neener (#242)

@blahstudent p.s. the avengers was awesome.

@blahstudent
The world needs more movies featuring HR employees who aren’t just there to highlight how much the Creative Types producing the film think HR employees hate their lives/jobs.

BreezyK (#770)

I totally agree with this review! (I am 31 and married) My husband and I must have made up the only other two people to have seen this movie instead of The Avengers this weekend and I’m glad we did. It seems that most people in my life are, or have recently been, struggling with the decision over whether to move for a partner’s career (I have done it twice and it is very difficult, even when we moved from one large city to another slightly smaller city), so I appreciated, like Ester and Adam, that this was a movie that looked at real obstacles facing a real couple!

I proposed to my girlfriend the Saturday night of this movie’s opening weekend and then we went and saw it at Cobble Hill Cinemas (down the street! we’re lucky!) and paid with a Groupon (soon to expire!) so we really did well. It was a sweet and earnest movie that endeared itself to us during our special week. FYI – the $7 a ticket is on Tuesdays only (or matinees) but just $10 the rest of the week (which really is a real deal). And walk in on a Friday night – there’s no lines – which makes it the perfect theater.

Then two days later I went to a 10:30am showing of The Avengers in IMAX 3D (really, the only way to see it) in Times Square on opening weekend and we got there 45 mins early to walk right into the theater, get great seats, and only paid $12 a ticket with Fandango! So, my advice is to see matinee IMAX 3D at that price.

@Peter W. Knox@twitter hurrah on your engagement, Peter W. Knox!

Megano (#739)

I’d just like to say that I’m an architect. Coincidentally, I also know a lot of architects. It is in no way glamorous or high paying.

@Megano But the glasses! Blueprints! INCONCEIVABLE.

KateH (#787)

Well, since you asked, It’s “hear hear.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear,_hear

e (#734)

This movie did make me laugh a good amount but it felt to me like a lot of shorts shoved into one long sort of plot,so I did run out of steam and it might be better as a matinee than a movie you go to at 10pm. Also I get really tired of “Apatow Tourettes” (as I’ve heard it called) by the end of the movie. This makes me feel like a real old, but sometimes being vulgar is just vulgar. *spoiler* On the other hand, when he shot the deer I laughed until I wept and started wheezing.

Also I felt like the ending dodged solving the problem! *spoiler* The answer to “how do we both do what we love” is “get married in the park and deal with it later even though the last 5 years were miserable because we kept putting off discussing this issue”? Really? REALLY? Why did she even forgive him? Just because that’s how the movie should end? Allison Brie was like, “motherhood is better than a career” and that fixed it all?

Ok, I’m done. I did like the attempt to deal with the real complexity of relationships, but yeah, I’d say $7 bucks/ get it on netflix than see in theater. Pay for Avengers because it’s a big screen sort of movie.

City_Dater (#565)

You aren’t the only people who didn’t see The Avengers! I know LOTS of people who didn’t. I hardly ever go to the movies because a)bedbugs and b) I spend enough time sitting in the dark professionally so it isn’t a fun social thing to do on my time off.

(The last movie I saw in a movie theater was something with Kristin Scott Thomas and subtitles.)

Tuna Surprise (#118)

It’s hard to pay $$ for a movie like this when you just know it’s coming to an airplane near you in the next 6 months.

ElBlynx (#499)

I want to see this but I am worried it will make me feel TOO MANY FEELINGS! If your husband has to hide behind you during emotional awkward parts of TV shows/movies, will it be too much for his delicate constitution? BTW we recently saw John Carter, so we are due for a reality-based, relationship movie.

Megano! (#124)

WHAT EMILY BLUNT IS THE BEST AND HAS THE BEST CHEMISTRY WITH EVERYONE BECAUSE SHE IS THE BEST /endrant

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